David,

I sympathize - what about the fftease package?  I don't know anything
about it but it may have something like you described if I remember
correctly.  I was really screwed on understanding FFT until I looked
at the VASP examples and then it made a little sense.  The wonderful
thing about Pd is that you still don't always need to understand the
math, just playing with trial and error works too!  Which would have
been fine for me except my patch sounded like poo, hence the post.

Frank,

When I got the mail I was like "damn, boy!"  Thanks for the info, I
will go over it for the next couple of days and see if I can't get
something going.  I really appreciate the time you put into that -
this is not the first time you've helped me out, and I am always
grateful.

Kevin

On 2/20/07, David Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I wish there was an "fft for dumbies" ... or, I guess, some kind of
> fft "black boxes" to play with, where you don't need to understand the
> math. Frank's recent post completely lost me, though given a bit of
> study I can probably decode it.
>
> But, for instance, in Reaktor or Plogue Bidule, you can move stuff
> into fft, mess with it, and resynthesize, without having any idea what
> the hell the math is. In comparison, I really couldn't understand the
> PD fft examples at all, it's just been too many years since I had a
> math class. I hope to get back into the math soon and understand at
> least enough for the PD fft stuff, but I have a lot of coding and
> design work and tracks I have to finish, before I can do that.
>
> ~David
>
> On 2/20/07, Malte Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > reach. pd seems to have all the theory and capability to do the
> > > impressive fft audio processing but i find really nice examples
> > > difficult to find. i tend to get base level examples of what you have
> > > described.(wma files :).
> > >
> >
> > Check out the phase vocoder examples in the audioexamples, a use- and
> > beautiful (imho) realworld application of FFT, changing pitch and speed
> > of samples independently.
> >
> > Another application is a way of convolution for 2 signals by multiplying
> > the spectra.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Malte
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