On Apr 6, 2007, at 10:21 PM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: > I have also been having HID problems lately on OSX Tiger w/ the latest > test build of extended. It crashes when trying to open higher device > numbers.
Like which device numbers? Could you send more info, like a transcript of the stuff in the Pd window? > Also, only the analog d-pad for my game pad works, but not the > buttons. The game pad works with snes9x for gaming, so it must be HID. > It used to work on earlier builds, so it may be something with the > latest version. This is actually most likely to be a shoddy USB HID descriptor in the USB device, which what the OS uses to know what data to expect from the device. If the OS can't get the data, then [hid] can't either. What do you get in the Pd window when you send a [print( message to [hid]? You should see a listing of the elements for that device as given by the OS. If something is listed there that is not showing up in Pd space, that's most likely a bug in [hid]. If it is not listed there, that's most likely a bad USB implementation on the device, which is sadly quite common. .hc > > ~Kyle > > On 4/6/07, Clifford Dunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Thanks Derek, >> >> Doing this did help me open the help file. However, a new can of >> worms has >> opened from this. >> >> I can't seem to find much helpful information about the [hid] >> object in the >> helpfile. In fact, the only time the [hid] object appears in this >> patch it >> doesn't have any inlets or outlets. Maybe it's not necessary. I >> would like >> to know what these in/outlets are for this object though. >> >> Also, the [hid] object does seem to be directly responsible for my >> crashes. >> It's rather irregular, but if I click on the object enough, PD will >> definitely crash. I've tried to create an [hid] object without a >> physical >> device ( i.e. [hid 5]), but the crashing will still happen. >> >> Are there people regularly using HID with OS X? >> >> Thanks again, >> >> Clifford Dunn >> www.myspace.com/clifforddunn >> >> >> On 06/04/07, Derek Holzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Hi Clifford, >>> >>> I've seen this problem on OS X a lot in my workshops. [hid] works >>> fine, >>> but something in the help file crashes it. Has to do with one of the >>> messages in the help patch causing [hid] to try to open one of the >>> built-in Mac HID devices (trackpad, keyboard, etc), which it >>> doesn't like. >>> >>> Here's a quick fix: open the [hid] help patch in TextEdit or some >>> other >>> text editor, and change the creation argument to something above the >>> number of built in Mac HID devices. [hid 5] should work, for >>> example. >>> Remember to save as extension .pd! Then you should be able to >>> open the >>> help patch and get more information. >>> >>> best, >>> d. >>> >>> Clifford Dunn wrote: >>>> Hello list. I'm relatively new to PD and I'm trying to see how >>>> HID works >>>> in it. I'm using the most recent version of PD-Extended, the >>>> preference >>>> files are fine, and I'm running OS X 10.4.8 on a PPC Powerbook. >>>> >>>> I can't seem to get [hid] to work. I can create the [hid] object >>>> and it >>>> seems to be ok...there's a slight pause in the system as it >>>> seems like >>>> it needs to load something. When I try to open the help file to >>>> figure >>>> out how to use it, PD crashes. >>> >>> -- >>> derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl >>> ---Oblique Strategy # 181: >>> "What would your closest friend do?" >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> [email protected] mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >> > > > -- > > http://theradioproject.com > http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com > > (((())))(()()((((((((()())))()(((((((())()()())()))) > (())))))(()))))))))))))(((((((((((()()))))))))((()))) > ))(((((((((((())))())))))))))))))))__________ > _____())))))(((((((((((((()))))))))))_______ > ((((((())))))))))))((((((((000)))oOOOOOO > > _______________________________________________ > [email protected] mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- All information should be free. - the hacker ethic _______________________________________________ [email protected] mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
