Hi, The desiredata crowd have done quite a lot of work to help prevent this. :)
a 2007/4/22, Olivier Heinry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > Help fight agains > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repetitive_strain_injury > Get up and stretch your back !! > > http://www.workrave.org/welcome/ > > ++ > O. > > > > -------------- > > 2007/4/19, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > > On Apr 18, 2007, at 10:33 PM, Alexandre Quessy wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > 2007/4/18, Kyle Klipowicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >> I'm sorry, I don't have [gems/duplicate] in the version of pdmtl that > > >> I just downloaded. It looks like a neat library though, will it be > > >> included in pd-extended soon? > > > > > > > https://devel.goto10.org/pdmtl/browser/trunk/pdmtl/gems/ > > > duplicate.pd !! > > > > > > I got to put it in the pd-extended build system, yes... It's just that > > > I am having troubles with the Makefile. I need to translate something > > > like "cp -r * /usr/lib/pd/extra/" into some recursive Makefiles unsing > > > "install -d" and such... > > > > > > See > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg01399.html > > > > > > Any help around ? I think the best way to do it would be to copy > > > makefiles around and then : > > > > > > find . -type d | xargs cd && make; done > > > > > > Or something... got to test. I will have more time in May. :) > > > > It seems that pdmtl really needs to have multi-level namespaces. > > Perhaps in May we could work on making that happen. > > > > .hc > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > >> > > >> I will try to experiment with [repeat], since it is getting > > >> tedious to > > >> manipulate more than 5 or 6 separate objects in the 'gemiverse.' > > >> > > >> ~Kyle > > >> > > >> On 4/18/07, Alexandre Quessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> Hi, > > >>> Consider using the [repeat] object along with [separator]... > > >>> See [gems/duplicate] in the SVN repository of the > > >>> http://wiki.dataflow.ws/PdMtlAbstractions > > >>> > > >>> a > > >>> > > >>> 2007/4/17, Cypod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >>>> Roman is right, just parenting down the chain, with small sphere > > >>>> (proxy > > >>>> geometry) to change the pivot control, from the center to one end. > > >>>> > > >>>> where separators come into play is to branch off arms and legs > > >>>> from the main > > >>>> body. The body's transform will still control the arm, but sibling > > >>>> hierarchies wont affect each other. That way you can move the > > >>>> body of the > > >>>> character and the arms don't fall off, but if you rotate the > > >>>> left shoulder > > >>>> it wont affect the right shoulder or legs. > > >>>> > > >>>> Thats how I created the dancing man patch, from a wow (World of > > >>>> War-craft) > > >>>> character that my friend build. Its still somewhat crude, but > > >>>> fun to be able > > >>>> to control characters in real-time during your performance. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> On 4/17/07, Kyle Klipowicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>>>> Ok, yes. After tinkering last night a bit I found that it is > > >>>>> indeed > > >>>>> this simple. For some reason I was getting confused, based upon > > >>>>> where > > >>>>> I was putting the separators for different branches of the > > >>>>> structure. > > >>>>> I like this top-down approach. It makes it easy to add global > > >>>>> modifiers at the top of the gem chain. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> ~Kyle > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On 4/17/07, Roman Haefeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>>>>> On Mon, 2007-04-16 at 23:32 -0500, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: > > >>>>>>> Ok, that was a dumb question, after looking at separator. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> But it raises some questions for me: is the best way to position > > >>>>>>> multi-geo unit, say of a sphere being orbited by smaller > > >>>>>>> spheres, best > > >>>>>>> accomplished by using a lot of additions, or is there a way > > >>>>>>> to chain > > >>>>>>> translate objects? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> if i understand you correctly, this is _very_ simple to > > >>>>>> achieve. here an > > >>>>>> example of a renderchain: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> [gemhead] > > >>>>>> | > > >>>>>> [translateXYZ] <- translate the whole planet system > > >>>>>> around > > >>>>>> | > > >>>>>> [sphere 1] <- sun > > >>>>>> | > > >>>>>> [rotateXYZ] <- rotate around Y-axis > > >>>>>> | > > >>>>>> [translateXYZ 2 0 0 ] > > >>>>>> | > > >>>>>> [sphere 0.1] <- earth > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> you can also add the moon: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> | > > >>>>>> [rotateXYZ] <- rotate around Y-axis > > >>>>>> | > > >>>>>> [translate 0.2] > > >>>>>> | > > >>>>>> [sphere 0.03] > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> hope, that makes it clear how to 'resolve dependencies' in gem. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> roman > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>> > ___________________________________________________________ > > >>>>>> Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. 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