Am 13.09.2007 um 09:06 schrieb Mathieu Bouchard: > > It's a concept that they already know since they are very little. > Many nouns refer to something that there can be many instances of > and of which the noun acts as a class. Thus saying "the cat" refers > to an individual, "the cats" refers to several individuals, > "cats" (alone) refers to cats in general (class), and so does "all > cats" and in another way "any cat" also does. >
Hmmm, i can follow your reasing, but i guess noone would say "class of cats" when he/she means cats in general. That would be "objects" for pd then, not "class". > There must be a way to leverage that kind of intuition or knowledge. > >> I tend to think that for pd this differentiation is not really an >> issue outside external programming (which isn't targetted in this >> discussion). > > do you teach abstractions? how do you do that without saying > "class"? probably using a word that stands for "class". For abstractions, the word is "abstraction". An abstraction in turn contains objects that may be of type "message", "sub patch", "abstraction" or "external/binary object". I always use "external object" to mean an object that can't be opened as a patch. That worked quite well so far, although i'm interested in more correct formulations without complicating things. gr~~~ _______________________________________________ [email protected] mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
