On Sep 26, 2007, at 1:01 PM, Derek Holzer wrote: > Howdy all, > > David Powers wrote: > >> Actually, once you get used to PD, max patches typically look far >> less >> 'logical', in my opinion. > > Actually, the fact that on-screen position affects order of operations > at all is very illogical if you ask me. It can get especially > confusing > when sends and receives get involved. If the subpatch with the receive > is nested three layers deep on the left hand side of the screen, > but the > send is on the right, when does it do it's thing? (Don't ask me, I've > never really used MAX...) And if moving that subpatch a few pixels to > the right can change the functioning of an entire patch, that is a > very > fundamental flaw for sure! > > Getting used to [trigger] is fundamental to using PD. It confuses the > hell out of workshop participants the first time you explain it, > but by > the end every one of them has usually come up to me asking me to sort > out an order of operations problem that can be easily solved by > using it.
Do you have any good examples to illustrate that? I wrote this one, but it's a bit boring: http://pure-data.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*/pure-data/doc/ tutorials/intro/16.ordering_messages.pd?revision=1.4 .hc > > best, > d. > > -- > derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ::: http://blog.myspace.com/ > macumbista > ---Oblique Strategy # 28: > "Change nothing and continue consistently" > > _______________________________________________ > [email protected] mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish. -William Carlos Williams _______________________________________________ [email protected] mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
