This is definitely useful. It would be great if you could the builds between 2007-11-04 and 2007-11-09 to narrow it further. I checked in a few things in that time period.
.hc On Nov 12, 2007, at 8:49 PM, simon wise wrote: > Hans > > using your speedtest on my machine for the versions shows little > difference in the times measured (old Powerbook G4 667MHz OSX10.4.8). > > time to display the patch is much longer than the measured times - > a couple of seconds at least in the newer autobuild - and CPU reads > high for most of that time. > > I added an [osc~] to test the effect on audio - there are of course > dropouts during opening and closing on each build, but the > redrawing the window in the newer build gets much worse with audio > on, for example resizing the window can take several seconds. The > audio does not drop out during this redraw. > > A very interesting difference between the two builds is: > - in the older build with audio on I can see the drawing process > (no dropouts) - when the window gets smaller there is no visible > redraw and no delay, if the window gets larger the new area is > imediatly drawn in white but remans white for a while before being > filled in, there seems no change to the area already drawn > - in the new build the whole window is redrawn with any change in > window render area, with much longer waiting times when the window > shows many objects even if none of them change or only a small > change is made. When the window is made smaller the whole visible > area appears to be redrawn. There are still no audio dropouts but > now the window border takes some seconds to update (unlike the > older build where the border is drawn quickly but the details a > drawn later). > > > I hope this may give some clues as to where the problem is. > > > simon > > > > > Pd-0.40.3-extended-20071104 > 61.935 > 27.534 > 27,507 > closed pd then reopened: > 28.551 > 27.44 > > Pd-0.40.3-extended-20071109 > 53.346 > 28.093 > 28.555 > 28.333 > > > On 13 Nov 2007, at 2:59 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >> >> On Nov 11, 2007, at 11:12 PM, simon wise wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>> On 12 Nov 2007, at 10:02 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >>>> >>>>>> simon wise wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Playing around and testing it seems something (possibly in >>>>>>> the new >>>>>>> visuals) is slowwwing down displaying/opening patches >>>>>> >>>>>> i've noticed the same. >>>>>> cheers, robbert >>>>>> >>>>>> -- pd-0.40.3-extended-20071106 >>>>>> mac osx 10.4.8, 15" G4 PB 1.67 GHz, 1 GB ram >>>>> >>>>> The changes that I made to enable the different colors are really >>>>> quite trivial so I have a hard time believing that to be the >>>>> culprit. But there have been quite a few changes since >>>>> 2007-05-01. >>>>> Maybe try an autobuild from a month ago, before the color changes? >>>>> >>>>> Could you post patches that illustrate the slow loading? >>>> >>>> I'll try earlier versions to see when the problem happened - but it >>>> is true of ALL patches - whenever they are redrawn it takes >>>> extra CPU >>>> time by the Pd-0.40.3-extended process. I'll keep >>>> exploring ... but >>>> so far: >>>> >>>> CPU peaks when a patch is opened, the window is resized or moved >>>> onto >>>> the screen (the CPU usage depends on the number of elements >>>> currently >>>> visible in the patch window). >>>> >>>> CPU is not affected when windows are moved inside the screen >>>> boundaries or covered/uncovered by other windows, dialogue boxes >>>> etc. >>> >>> another odd, unhelpful behaviour and possibly a useful detail: >>> >>> when a GOP abstraction is open while editing (ie it is showing as a >>> grey rectangle) and the grey rectangle is moved then CPU usage goes >>> up and the abstraction's window in the background is (very >>> redundantly) redrawn >> >> I made no changes there. You are beginning to discover for yourself >> the inspiration behind Desire Data. :) >> >> .hc >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- >> ---- >> >> I have the audacity to believe that peoples everywhere can have three >> meals a day for their bodies, education and culture for their minds, >> and dignity, equality and freedom for their spirits. - Martin >> Luther King, Jr. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> [email protected] mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >> listinfo/pd-list > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice, it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith _______________________________________________ [email protected] mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
