Le vendredi 30 novembre 2007 à 15:20 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : > You can add a redirect page for that translation, instead of changing > every page. basically create a new page [[XXXXXX:vanilla]] and then > add this text to that page: > > #redirect [[Category:vanilla]]
I have worked a bit a page about wiki shortcuts and such in French at http://wiki.puredata.info/fr/Aide:Contents but still havent foudn the time to reflect the changes into http://wiki.puredata.info/en/Help:Contents I guess the latter shoudl be translated first in general when you start a new language version my 2 two thunes O. > > .hc > > On Nov 29, 2007, at 11:32 PM, PSPunch wrote: > > > > > Hans, > > > > > > Problem solved. > > > > When the pages were imported from the original > > English page, the line > > [[Category:vanilla]] > > > > in all pages were replaced with > > [[XXXXXX:vanilla]] > > > > where XXXXXX is the translated term for 'Category'. > > > > This should have remained untranslated for MediaWiki > > to parse properly and add that page to the category it > > claimed to belong to. > > > > > > Thanks for all the help though. > > Now I feel comfortable to start seeking volunteers to start > > working on pages :) > > > > -- > > David Shimamoto > > > > > >> On Nov 29, 2007, at 12:24 AM, PSPunch wrote: > >>> Hans, > >>> > >>> > >>>> The lists are built automatically by mediawiki from every page > >>>> that has > >>>> [[Category:objectclass]] and [[Category:vanilla]] in it. > >>> > >>> In this case, 'Category' and 'Object class' is replaced by the > >>> localized > >>> term defined in the template.. I see the links in the Spanish page > >>> functioning properly in this manner. > >>> > >>> Combinations I've tried so far do not seem to work. > >>> > >>> Am I the only one dealing with multi byte characters at this > >>> site so far? > >>> I am beginning to have a bad feeling about their behavior. > >> > >> Yeah, you are the first working with multi-byte characters. The > >> Chinese > >> and Japanese wikipedia sites are pretty large, so I think that > >> multi-byte characters should work fine. I don't think any of us are > >> experts in MediaWiki, the software used for Pdpedia. You might try a > >> mediawiki forum. > >> > >> .hc > >> > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> David Shimamoto > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> .hc > >>>> > >>>> On Nov 28, 2007, at 12:12 PM, PSPunch wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Hans, > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Ok, I figure only the page names are copied. > >>>>> > >>>>> One last question if before I start adding text.. > >>>>> > >>>>> I don't quite understand the mechanism behind pages such as, > >>>>> > >>>>> http://wiki.puredata.info/en/Category:objectclass > >>>>> http://wiki.puredata.info/en/Category:vanilla > >>>>> > >>>>> Can you please tell me where the list of objects come from? > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> David Shimamoto > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Looks like you got the Infobox working now. As for the English > >>>>>> content, > >>>>>> none of the previous people wanted to have the English content in > >>>>>> their > >>>>>> template import, so I didn't include it. It's all available by > >>>>>> clicking > >>>>>> the "English" link on the lower left of each page. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> .hc > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Nov 28, 2007, at 3:15 AM, PSPunch wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hans, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks. > >>>>>>> I am terribly sorry to bother you with this. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> To my eyes, the following two pages look almost identical. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> http://wiki.puredata.info/en/MediaWiki:Common.css > >>>>>>> http://wiki.puredata.info/ja/MediaWiki:Common.css > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> http://wiki.puredata.info/en/Template:Infobox_Objectclass > >>>>>>> http://wiki.puredata.info/ja/Template:Infobox_Objectclass > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> --- > >>>>>>> After you've kindly executed the import, I was imagining > >>>>>>> that for example, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> http://wiki.puredata.info/ja/line > >>>>>>> would be filled with English contents identical to > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> http://wiki.puredata.info/ja/line > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Unless I've done something wrong, I am imagining I've > >>>>>>> translated terms I shouldn't have in the original template. > >>>>>>> Say, for example, is 'Category:' parsed exceptionally for > >>>>>>> specific actions? Then it shouldn't have been replaced > >>>>>>> with multi byte characters of my language. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Any ideas? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> David Shimamoto > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Nov 27, 2007, at 12:03 AM, PSPunch wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hans, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Ok, it's running, it'll take an hour or two. You can see the > >>>>>>>>>> pages as > >>>>>>>>>> they are imported: > >>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.puredata.info/ja/minimum > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks for the effort! > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Yes, I see the log increasing as a reload the "recent changes" > >>>>>>>>> page. > >>>>>>>>> Is it just me or is it general to get excited watching > >>>>>>>>> massive data being crunched right in front of your very eyes? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Some pages I opened were just blank. > >>>>>>>>> I wonder if this is because the original English page > >>>>>>>>> is also blank... any way I will wait for the processing to > >>>>>>>>> end. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> There shouldn't be blank pages, but they will just be templates > >>>>>>>> with the > >>>>>>>> infobox and the categories setup. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Next, you need to add the CSS and Infobox template then the > >>>>>>>>>> infobox > >>>>>>>>>> stuff will show up. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I feel I've already done this following the "admin HOW-TO". > >>>>>>>>> If it gets over written, I guess I can just try again. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I think it's still missing the CSS, that should be listed on > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> HOWTO. > >>>>>>>> That's why the Infobox isn't showing up. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> .hc > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> doh itashimashite (that's one of my favorite words in > >>>>>>>>>> japanese > >>>>>>>>>> :D ) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Yes, domo-arigato-gozaimas!! > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> .hc > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Nov 24, 2007, at 8:30 PM, PSPunch wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hans, > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Most of the main page is taken from the documents kindly > >>>>>>>>>>> prepared > >>>>>>>>>>> by Tetsuya Saito. The objectclass template page mainly > >>>>>>>>>>> has terms > >>>>>>>>>>> unified with the main page. So for that part I feel > >>>>>>>>>>> comfortable to > >>>>>>>>>>> proceed. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I'd appreciate it if you can execute the import. > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. :) > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>> David Shimamoto > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I can execute the import whenever you're ready. Maybe it > >>>>>>>>>>>> would be > >>>>>>>>>>>> good > >>>>>>>>>>>> to have one more Japanese speaker look at the template? > >>>>>>>>>>>> It's > >>>>>>>>>>>> up to > >>>>>>>>>>>> you. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> .hc > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2007, at 9:57 PM, PSPunch wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hans, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've followed the procedure in the English 'Admin howtos' > >>>>>>>>>>>>> pages. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I would appreciate it if you could try executing the > >>>>>>>>>>>>> import. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>> David Shimamoto > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2007, at 2:20 AM, PSPunch wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi list, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have some questions for some of you working on > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pdpedia. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ======= > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Has there already been discussions on policies regarding > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when/which > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pages to lock? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am assuming that leaving everything unlocked is the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go if > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the world were an ideal place. Are there not yet > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MediaWiki > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spammers? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Locking pages is basically for when people are > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fighting over a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> page. I > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't imagine that anything is so divisive in Pd that > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we'd > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> lock > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> pages. So far, we haven't had any spam yet. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ======= > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding importing data from other languages.. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For some basic pages, I have gotten away with the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> procedure. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I. Open the pdpedia page in English. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> II. Enter "edit" mode and [copy] the contents in the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> form > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> III. Create an equivalent page in my language and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [paste] the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> material > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> above. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IV. Use above as a starting point to begin translation. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The above does not work for pages such as > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Category:vanilla'. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't quite understand how that content is embedded > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can some one help me on importing the list of objects? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've noticed that people working on the Spanish and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Portuguese > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pages > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have been successful in this. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once that translated template that you posted is ready > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to go, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> then > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> run the import. That will generate template pages for > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> about > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2000 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> objectclasses. Then it's a matter of plugging in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> content, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> which > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> can be > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gathered from pages in other languages, help patches, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> .hc > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Shimamoto > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] mailing list > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking at things from a more basic level, you can > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> come up > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> more > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> practice, it > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> can change entire economies. - Amy Smith > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] mailing list > >>>>>>>>>>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------- > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin > >>>>>>>>>>>> Luther > >>>>>>>>>>>> King, Jr. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] mailing list > >>>>>>>>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > >>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>>>> --------------- > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> News is what people want to keep hidden and everything > >>>>>>>>>> else is > >>>>>>>>>> publicity. - Bill Moyers > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>> [email protected] mailing list > >>>>>>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > >>>>>>>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>> ------------- > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one > >>>>>>>> man dies, > >>>>>>>> one > >>>>>>>> chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a > >>>>>>>> better > >>>>>>>> language; and every chapter must be so translated.... -John > >>>>>>>> Donne > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> [email protected] mailing list > >>>>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > >>>>>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>> ----------- > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I have the audacity to believe that peoples everywhere can > >>>>>> have three > >>>>>> meals a day for their bodies, education and culture for their > >>>>>> minds, and > >>>>>> dignity, equality and freedom for their spirits. - Martin > >>>>>> Luther > >>>>>> King, Jr. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> [email protected] mailing list > >>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > >>>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> --------- > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> [email protected] mailing list > >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > >> > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> ------- > >> > >> > >> If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of > >> exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an > >> idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he > >> keeps it > >> to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the > >> possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of > >> it. - Thomas Jefferson > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > [email protected] mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > > listinfo/pd-list > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ---- > > As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be > glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and > this we should do freely and generously. - Benjamin Franklin > > > > _______________________________________________ > [email protected] mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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