On Nov 30, 2007, at 12:51 AM, Chris McCormick wrote: > On Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 10:27:07PM +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: >> Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote: >>> On Thu, 2007-11-29 at 12:56 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >>>> On Nov 29, 2007, at 12:36 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: >>>>> yeah, please don't change its behaviour only in pd-extended, so >>>>> that >>>>> patches created in pd-extended can cause errors in pd-vanilla. if >>>>> changed, it needs to be changed in both. >>>> >>>> Anything I change I submit to the patch tracker, so it's up to >>>> Miller >>>> then. >>> >>> oh, good to know ;-) >> >> Though as long as Miller doesn't accept the patch, you have >> incompatibilities on the language level. > > Which has bitten me on the ass at least once when making music with > someone who uses pd-extended. Hans, I wonder if you could make it > clear > to people who download pd-extended that it is incompatible with Pd, an > older version, and that it is bundled with many externals which aren't > in Pd by default? > > Note that I really appreciate all the work you are doing to make > people's > lives easier, and don't want to put a dent in your efforts. I just > think > if we're not careful with breaking compatability people are going > to get > very confused very quickly.
Correct me if I am wrong, but using Pd-extended vs Pd-vanilla of the same version is no more incompatible than using Pd-vanilla 0.40 vs. 0.39. If you use [declare] in a patch in pd-vanilla 0.40, then it won't work in pd-vanilla 0.39. If you use [atan2] in Pd-vanilla 0.37 then it won't be compatible with pd-vanilla 0.38, and vice-versa. Pd-extended 0.39 is basically like half way between pd-vanilla 0.39 and 0.40 since it includes patches that get included in 0.40, but doesn't include miller's 0.40 changes. This is the reason why I made the [hcs/version] object, you can issue a warning if someone is using your patch with a version not tested or known to be incompatible. It's not in Pd-vanilla, I never submitted it to the patch tracker since I wasn't sure of the best interface for it, like maybe it should be a message like [;pd version(, then you listen on [receive pd]-[route version] for the response. .hc ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- Using ReBirth is like trying to play an 808 with a long stick. - David Zicarelli _______________________________________________ [email protected] mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
