Hi, it works, but miss Gem.dll?
cheers -----Messaggio originale----- Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Per conto di [EMAIL PROTECTED] Inviato: giovedì 6 marzo 2008 10.54 A: [email protected] Oggetto: PD-list Digest, Vol 36, Issue 23 Send PD-list mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of PD-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Lua and PD (Chris McCormick) 2. Re: pd-ext paths, libs and help (marius schebella) 3. Re: Lua and PD (marius schebella) 4. Re: Lua and PD (Hans-Christoph Steiner) 5. working windows builds... (Hans-Christoph Steiner) 6. understanding vline~ (naysayer) 7. Re: understanding vline~ (marius schebella) 8. Re: understanding vline~ (IOhannes m zmoelnig) 9. Re: Add Path problems (yvan volochine) 10. Re: pd-ext paths, libs and help (Roman Haefeli) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 19:57:09 -0500 From: Chris McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [PD] Lua and PD To: Frank Barknecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 09:45:47AM +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: > Claude Heiland-Allen hat gesagt: // Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: > > Vast amounts of number crunching, for performance reasons. This > > includes DSP at the moment, although hopefully Frank's port of > > Lua~/Vessel~ is a viable alternative (not sure what the current status > > of that is). > > It is working fairly well and now that LAC is almost over I intend to > work more on it as I want to use it in a project. Vessel is quite > fast: All synthesis and number crunching happens in a C-library, while > Lua just serves as a kind of text based patching environment for > dynamically generating the dsp graphs. This is very handy for granular > synthesis or any other tasks that require lots of polyphony. So Vessel > can do things that are nearly impossible with Pd patching alone. Really excited to try this out! Chris. ------------------- http://mccormick.cx ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 21:57:27 -0500 From: marius schebella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [PD] pd-ext paths, libs and help To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Roman Haefeli wrote: > On Tue, 2008-03-04 at 12:09 -0500, marius schebella wrote: > >> declare -path oscx is also doing nothing. oh, wait! > > as written in the declare-help.pd, -path is relative to pd, so you have > to use: > > [declare -path oscx] (assuming the folder is <pd-path>/extra/oscx) > > roman but that is exaclty what I used! (see 2 lines above...) something is broken with declare. (see mails before). hans, would it be a problem to add all the missing paths to the configuration file of pdxt? adding all these external libraries but not supporting them seems weird. marius. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:27:38 -0500 From: marius schebella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [PD] Lua and PD To: Chris McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected], Frank Barknecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed me too, really excited to see lua signal processing in pd. since graham wakefield is involved I guess it will be similar to the max version? are you planning a native texteditor support from within pd. I saw texteditors that pop up when you double cklick an object for example for the cyclone coll object. something like this (... syntax highlighting???). auto updating of scripts when they are changed and saved would be nice, too. marius. Chris McCormick wrote: > On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 09:45:47AM +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: >> Claude Heiland-Allen hat gesagt: // Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: >>> Vast amounts of number crunching, for performance reasons. This >>> includes DSP at the moment, although hopefully Frank's port of >>> Lua~/Vessel~ is a viable alternative (not sure what the current status >>> of that is). >> It is working fairly well and now that LAC is almost over I intend to >> work more on it as I want to use it in a project. Vessel is quite >> fast: All synthesis and number crunching happens in a C-library, while >> Lua just serves as a kind of text based patching environment for >> dynamically generating the dsp graphs. This is very handy for granular >> synthesis or any other tasks that require lots of polyphony. So Vessel >> can do things that are nearly impossible with Pd patching alone. > > Really excited to try this out! > > Chris. > > ------------------- > http://mccormick.cx > > _______________________________________________ > [email protected] mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 22:47:33 -0500 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [PD] Lua and PD To: marius schebella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected], Chris McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Frank Barknecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Even better would be to use file associations to open the file in your default Lua editor. .hc On Mar 5, 2008, at 10:27 PM, marius schebella wrote: > me too, really excited to see lua signal processing in pd. since > graham > wakefield is involved I guess it will be similar to the max version? > are you planning a native texteditor support from within pd. > I saw texteditors that pop up when you double cklick an object for > example for the cyclone coll object. something like this (... syntax > highlighting???). > auto updating of scripts when they are changed and saved would be > nice, too. > marius. > > > Chris McCormick wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 09:45:47AM +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: >>> Claude Heiland-Allen hat gesagt: // Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: >>>> Vast amounts of number crunching, for performance reasons. This >>>> includes DSP at the moment, although hopefully Frank's port of >>>> Lua~/Vessel~ is a viable alternative (not sure what the current >>>> status >>>> of that is). >>> It is working fairly well and now that LAC is almost over I >>> intend to >>> work more on it as I want to use it in a project. Vessel is quite >>> fast: All synthesis and number crunching happens in a C-library, >>> while >>> Lua just serves as a kind of text based patching environment for >>> dynamically generating the dsp graphs. This is very handy for >>> granular >>> synthesis or any other tasks that require lots of polyphony. So >>> Vessel >>> can do things that are nearly impossible with Pd patching alone. >> >> Really excited to try this out! >> >> Chris. >> >> ------------------- >> http://mccormick.cx >> >> _______________________________________________ >> [email protected] mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >> listinfo/pd-list >> > > > _______________________________________________ > [email protected] mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- Terrorism is not an enemy. It cannot be defeated. It's a tactic. It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and expect we're going to win that war. We're not going to win the war on terrorism. - retired U.S. Army general, William Odom ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 01:00:07 -0500 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [PD] working windows builds... To: Pd List <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed I fixed the invisible patches bug on Windows, Martin Peach was right, it was related to namespaces. And thru some help from #tcl, I found a nice, clean fix that also should introduce bytecode caching to all Tcl commands. It also updates the code so it doesn't use a deprecated API. Here are the relevant changes: http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/branches/pd- extended/v0-40/pd/src/t_tkcmd.c?view=diff&r1=9168&r2=9540&diff_format=h If it all works out, there should be a working Windows build here by tomorrow: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2008-03-06/ .hc ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- ?El pueblo unido jam?s ser? vencido! ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:42:01 +1100 From: naysayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [PD] understanding vline~ To: "Pd-List (E-mail)" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" hi all. just wondering if i am the only one who has missed the point when it comes to vline~. i know this has been around for quite some time now but i am confused as to how the object actually works. in the documentation there is an explanation that i feel is a little hard to understand. the message box says ramp up, jump down, then ramp up again | 1 1000, 0 0 1000, 1 1000 1000 ( yet when i press it only ramps upto 1 and thats it. now i'm trying how to use it and make it work but i can't figure out the syntax. could someone point me in the right direction. perhaps i'm being completely stupid and i've missed something simple. thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/20080306/434d182e/a ttachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:16:18 -0500 From: marius schebella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [PD] understanding vline~ To: naysayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Pd-List \(E-mail\)" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed yea, there is no explanation of the syntax. the first number is the value that you want to go to. the second value is the duration it takes to go to that value and the third nmber is the time when to start with the action. 99 1000 5000 means go to 99 in 1000ms but wait for 5000 ms before you start. the problem is, if you send another message 0 500 1000 before the 5 seconds of the first message passed then it overwrites the first message and goes to 0 after 1 second. (and if you were at 0 nothing happens.) the message in the help patch should go to 1 over a duration of one second, then jump to zero after one second and then ramp up again starting after 1 second (counting from the time when you clicked). marius. naysayer wrote: > hi all. > > just wondering if i am the only one who has missed the point when it comes > to vline~. i know this has been around for quite some time now but i am > confused as to how the object actually works. in the documentation there is > an explanation that i feel is a little hard to understand. > > the message box says > ramp up, jump down, then ramp up again > > | 1 1000, 0 0 1000, 1 1000 1000 ( > > yet when i press it > only ramps upto 1 and thats it. now i'm trying how to use it and make > it work but i can't figure out the syntax. > > could someone point me in the right direction. perhaps i'm being completely > stupid and i've missed something simple. > > thanks > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > [email protected] mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:31:26 +0100 From: IOhannes m zmoelnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [PD] understanding vline~ To: marius schebella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Pd-List \(E-mail\)" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed marius schebella wrote: > yea, there is no explanation of the syntax. apart from the following quote taken from the vline~-help (updated for version 0.33): "The messages consist of a target value, a time interval (zero if not supplied), and an initial delay (also zero if not supplied.)" fgmasdr. IOhannes ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 10:52:11 +0100 From: yvan volochine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [PD] Add Path problems To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> Second question:I think it's possible to load a path with a message in >> a patch but also don't know how to do it! >> > > [declare] (part of pd) > [import] (part of hcs) > I think that [declare] came with pd-0.4 so it won't work for Delphine as she has pd-0.39 (until the tomorrow-windows-build ? =) [import] should work fine though. You also have the other trick i.e. put your folder name in object name (when folder is already in your pd path): [rradical/rrad.filt~]. This can be boring... or handy (when sharing a patch with subfolders). HTH _yvan ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:04:01 +0100 From: Roman Haefeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [PD] pd-ext paths, libs and help To: marius schebella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain On Wed, 2008-03-05 at 21:57 -0500, marius schebella wrote: > Roman Haefeli wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-03-04 at 12:09 -0500, marius schebella wrote: > > > >> declare -path oscx is also doing nothing. oh, wait! > > > > as written in the declare-help.pd, -path is relative to pd, so you have > > to use: > > > > [declare -path oscx] (assuming the folder is <pd-path>/extra/oscx) > > > > roman > > but that is exaclty what I used! (see 2 lines above...) something is > broken with declare. (see mails before). > hans, would it be a problem to add all the missing paths to the > configuration file of pdxt? adding all these external libraries but not > supporting them seems weird. > marius. argh.. sorry for the confusion.. i wanted to type: [declare -path extra/oscx] that is what actually is written in the helpfile. anyway, have a look at it. roman ___________________________________________________________ Der fr|he Vogel fdngt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ PD-list mailing list [email protected] to manage your subscription (including un-subscription) see http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list End of PD-list Digest, Vol 36, Issue 23 *************************************** _______________________________________________ [email protected] mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
