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.hc On May 10, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Simon Kilshaw wrote: > Yes, > I've tried this to great effect. I've got a patch written for osc > in pd-extended 0.39 test 4. > What I think is useful, is that with the IR sensor bar, ontop of > your mac, you can invoke gemmouse. Then all you need is a gun > attachment for your wii and you can point and shoot! > Can you attach patches in this list? I'd be happy to share. > > > Simon Kilshaw > Lecturer in Music Technology > RWCMD > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Fri 5/9/2008 4:54 PM > To: pd-list@iem.at > Subject: PD-list Digest, Vol 38, Issue 48 > > Send PD-list mailing list submissions to > pd-list@iem.at > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of PD-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Lua and PD (update) (Claude Heiland-Allen) > 2. Re: controlling gem camera with wiimote (Dafydd Hughes) > 3. Re: controlling gem camera with wiimote (IOhannes m zm?lnig) > 4. Re: Mailing-List header (IOhannes m zm?lnig) > 5. Re: 0.41-4 on osx (marius schebella) > 6. Re: 0.41-4 on osx (IOhannes m zm?lnig) > 7. Re: List header (Was: Re: [PD-announce] Proof Me! PD FLOSS > Manual) (marius schebella) > 8. Re: 0.41-4 on osx (marius schebella) > 9. Re: 0.41-4 on osx (IOhannes m zm?lnig) > 10. Re: List header (Was: Re: [PD-announce] Proof Me! PD FLOSS > Manual) (Frank Barknecht) > 11. improve find function (marius schebella) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 13:38:26 +0100 > From: Claude Heiland-Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [PD] Lua and PD (update) > To: Mike McGonagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: pd_list <pd-list@iem.at> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: >> Mike McGonagle wrote: >>> 2. Lua access to PD tables >> >> Now implemented (lacking some things, like GUI refresh). > > Now added: t:redraw(), see [ltabfill] example. > >> Still lacking some niceness, should be able to do: >> >> local t = pd.Table:new():sync("mytable") >> t[123] = 456 >> local x = t[789] >> return #t >> >> but that's not (currently) implemented. > > And it looks like it won't be implemented for the foreseeable future: > > "#t does not invoke the __len metamethod when t is a table." > See end of: http://lua-users.org/wiki/GeneralizedPairsAndIpairs > > This means pd.Table will remain ugly, with :length() :set() :get(), at > least until Lua 5.2 (maybe). > > > Mike McGonagle also wrote: >> I am running Mac OS X 10.4.9, but the real trouble is that I don't >> have a >> internet connection at home. It is more a matter of time, and yes, >> a little >> bit of apprehension in doing something more. > > Ok, using the Makefile.static you should be able to download two > tarballs: > > https://devel.goto10.org/dl.php?repname=maximus&path=%2Fpdlua% > 2F&rev=0&isdir=1 > http://www.lua.org/ftp/lua-5.1.3.tar.gz > > Unpack pdlua.tar.gz, then put lua-5.1.3.tar.gz directly inside pdlua/ > > Then edit pdlua/Makefile.static to change the PLATFORM= line to > macosx, > and within pdlua/ run "make -f Makefile.static" > > It should compile first Lua then pdlua, and then you can test it with > "pd -path src/ -lib lua" > > > Hope this works, let me know if not. > > > Claude > -- > http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 08:45:59 -0400 > From: "Dafydd Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [PD] controlling gem camera with wiimote > To: "Luigi Rensinghoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: pd-list@iem.at > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 > > Has anybody on OS X tried darwiinosc? > > http://code.google.com/p/darwiinosc/ > > I've just installed it and it looks pretty good to me, although I > haven't actually tried to apply it to anything useful yet. > > cheers > dafydd > > On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Luigi Rensinghoff > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi wiimote-experimantators.... >> Looks like some more people experimenting with th wii on OS X, so >> we cold >> share some thoughts and experiences... >> For know i am using "Osculator" to send OSC Data to PD....because >> 1) It is possible to handle more than one wiimote >> 2) I was able to compile "wiimote" or "aka.wiiremote" on Intel-OS >> X Tiger, >> but when i create the aka.wiiremote object or load the help-patch >> i get that >> load_object: Symbol "setup_aka0x2ewiiremote" not found >> aka.wiiremote 00-1e-35-03-8a-00 >> >> >> ---- i will search again vor Readmes describing the setup >> procedure...i >> guess something is wrong with the setup (unfortunately the >> original readme >> about the setup procedure from aka.wiiremote is not available on >> the net any >> more) >> It took me a while to find out that without the IR-Sensor bar it >> is only >> possible to get TWO axis. as Roman stated before.. >> I have attached two patches, one that i found here, and i adapted >> it to be >> used with OSCulator and one i was working yesterday (it shouldnt >> be to >> difficult to adapt it to change the camera-view) >> Still very chaotic - but maybe helpful >> >> >> >> >> >> So anyway, i would be interested to hear how it is processing and >> what your >> experiments wit the wii are up to.. >> >> So one question: There were Threads about porting/adapting the >> wiimote-external to OSX, i think Hans was planning to do >> that....did you >> start already ? >> How is the current state ? >> >> BTW: i am getting error: pd_vmess: only 5 allowed, since a week or >> so ?? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Am 09.05.2008 um 11:33 schrieb Roman Haefeli: >> >> On Fri, 2008-05-09 at 17:49 +0900, hard off wrote: >> >> you will probably need a middleman program to take the wii data and >> convert it into OSC messages so PD can read it. >> just google " wii + OSC + your operating system" and you should find >> what you need. >> OSCulator (mac) is good. and someone just said that 'glovepie' is >> good for windows. >> >> then just map the pitch, roll and yaw of the wii remote to the camera >> angle. >> >> you don't get angles directly, but the magnitude of X, Y and Z >> vectors >> (or more accurately: the accelerations). however, you can calculate >> pitch and roll from the wiimote data. since g (gravity) is >> parallel to >> the yaw rotation axis, you cannot track the yaw angle. >> the [wiimote-help] by mike wozniewski comes with an example about >> how to >> do that. >> roman >> >> >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________ >> Der fr?he Vogel f?ngt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! >> Mail: >> http://mail.yahoo.de >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PD-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >>> ---------------------------------------< >> Luigi Rensinghoff >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> skype:gigischinke >> ichat:gigicarlo >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PD-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >> > > > > -- > www.sideshowmedia.ca > skype: chickeninthegrass > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 15:18:08 +0200 > From: IOhannes m zm?lnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [PD] controlling gem camera with wiimote > To: Luigi Rensinghoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: pd-list@iem.at > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Luigi Rensinghoff wrote: >> >> Hi wiimote-experimantators.... >> >> Looks like some more people experimenting with th wii on OS X, so we >> cold share some thoughts and experiences... >> >> For know i am using "Osculator" to send OSC Data to PD....because >> >> 1) It is possible to handle more than one wiimote >> >> 2) I was able to compile "wiimote" or "aka.wiiremote" on Intel-OS X > > i was referring to the [wiimote] external by mike wozniewski (or > rather > by somebody else who used mike's original code and did whatever to it) > this is _not_ the same as [aka.wiirememote] > > >> Tiger, but when i create the aka.wiiremote object or load the help- >> patch >> i get that >> >> load_object: Symbol "setup_aka0x2ewiiremote" not found >> aka.wiiremote 00-1e-35-03-8a-00 > > the object seems to be called "wiiremote" (accordind to the sources). > so you probably have to rename the aka.wiiremote.pd_darwin to > wiiremote.pd_darwin and create [wiiremote]. > > > fmasdr > IOhannes > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 15:25:28 +0200 > From: IOhannes m zm?lnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [PD] Mailing-List header > To: Steffen Juul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: pd-list@iem.at > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Steffen Juul wrote: >> On 09/05/2008, at 11.27, Roman Haefeli wrote: >> >>> changing the mail filters shouldn't be too hard ;-) >> >> And why filter list-mail by subject? I might miss an obvious reason, >> thats why i ask. > > i assumed that many people have never ever looked at the mail- > headers of > an email - apart from the obvious fields that are shown by default on > most mtas (subject:, from:, date:, ...) - and don't even know that > they > could filter based on rfc2919 > > i might be wrong of course. > > mgf,adsr > IOhannes > > PS: probably most people don't do any filtering anyhow... > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 10:10:52 -0400 > From: marius schebella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [PD] 0.41-4 on osx > To: IOhannes m zm?lnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "pd-list@iem.at" <pd-list@iem.at> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > IOhannes m zm?lnig wrote: >> marius schebella wrote: >>> after installation I noticed that I never have used pd >>> "raw" (outside of >>> /Applications), and don't know how to start it. >> >> you mean like: >> $ /Applications/Pd.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd >> or >> $ ../bin/pd > > exactly. that brings up pd but with a wrong menubar, no submenus > except > file-new/open, and it is not possible to open files, nor create new > patches. the menubar is also not called pd, but wish. and the tcl-tk > icon is in the taskbar. > marius. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 16:13:30 +0200 > From: IOhannes m zm?lnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [PD] 0.41-4 on osx > To: marius schebella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "pd-list@iem.at" <pd-list@iem.at> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > marius schebella wrote: > >> exactly. that brings up pd but with a wrong menubar, no submenus >> except >> file-new/open, and it is not possible to open files, nor create new >> patches. the menubar is also not called pd, but wish. and the tcl-tk >> icon is in the taskbar. > > weird. > i also get the tcl-tk icon and "wish" as a name. i admit that i don't > care much. > > however, i can use Pd just like i am used to use it. > (open patches, create new ones) > > fg,asdr > IOhannes > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 10:15:14 -0400 > From: marius schebella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [PD] List header (Was: Re: [PD-announce] Proof Me! PD > FLOSS Manual) > To: IOhannes m zm?lnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: pd-list@iem.at > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > IOhannes m zm?lnig wrote: >> Steffen Juul wrote: >>> On 07/05/2008, at 9.54, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: >>> >>>> Derek Holzer wrote: >>>>> 4) Grammar/spelling, of course >>>> Miller refers to "Pd" rather than "PD", shouldn't this canonical >>>> form be >>>> used? (which reminds me, that even the header of this list says >>>> [PD] :-|) >>> Oh dear. Any chance of changing that (for all the iem-lists)? >>> Please. >> >> i could easily. >> but then i guess 500 people will start shouting at me, because their >> mail-filters won't work anymore :-) >> >> >> if nobody objects within the next week, i will change the subject- >> prefix >> from [PD] to [Pd] (and accordingly) on all Pd-related mailinglists. > > I think mail filters are not case sensitive, at least thunderbird is > not. I am more worried about spam filters of they are case > sensitive, I > had to train my mail programs (gmail [please don't shout at me...] and > thunderbird), because some of the pd mails went to spam. > maybe you can send out a testmail with the new header and see if it > comes through. > marius. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 10:16:18 -0400 > From: marius schebella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [PD] 0.41-4 on osx > To: IOhannes m zm?lnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "pd-list@iem.at" <pd-list@iem.at> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > IOhannes m zm?lnig wrote: >> marius schebella wrote: >> >>> exactly. that brings up pd but with a wrong menubar, no submenus >>> except >>> file-new/open, and it is not possible to open files, nor create new >>> patches. the menubar is also not called pd, but wish. and the tcl-tk >>> icon is in the taskbar. >> >> weird. >> i also get the tcl-tk icon and "wish" as a name. i admit that i don't >> care much. >> >> however, i can use Pd just like i am used to use it. >> (open patches, create new ones) >> >> fg,asdr >> IOhannes >> > > well, I have to say that I did not make install. maybe that's the > problem? > marius. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 16:30:43 +0200 > From: IOhannes m zm?lnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [PD] 0.41-4 on osx > To: marius schebella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "pd-list@iem.at" <pd-list@iem.at> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > marius schebella wrote: >> >> well, I have to say that I did not make install. maybe that's the >> problem? >> marius. >> > > neither did i (i don't want to 'make install' everytime i try to > find a > bug :-)) > > fgmadsr > IOhannes > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 16:40:14 +0200 > From: Frank Barknecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [PD] List header (Was: Re: [PD-announce] Proof Me! PD > FLOSS Manual) > To: pd-list@iem.at > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hallo, > marius schebella hat gesagt: // marius schebella wrote: > >> I am more worried about spam filters of they are case sensitive, I >> had to train my mail programs (gmail [please don't shout at me...] >> and >> thunderbird), because some of the pd mails went to spam. >> maybe you can send out a testmail with the new header and see if it >> comes through. > > I hope, you don't have "Pd" and "pd" as well as "PD" and maybe "pD" in > your blacklist. ;) > > Ciao > -- > Frank > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 11:54:16 -0400 > From: marius schebella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [PD] improve find function > To: "pd-list@iem.at" <pd-list@iem.at> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > hi, > I wonder if it would be possible to improve the find function in pd. > first thing, the popup window should automatically get the focus in > the > search field. > secondly, be able to search "in this patch" or "in all patches" and > "include sub patches". > also be able to search for arguments, which is necessary for finding > correlating sends and receives. > marius. > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list mailing list > PD-list@iem.at > to manage your subscription (including un-subscription) see > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > End of PD-list Digest, Vol 38, Issue 48 > *************************************** > > > > Royal Welsh College of Music & Drama > Castle Grounds > Cathays Park > Cardiff CF10 3ER > > Royal Welsh College of Music & Drama Ltd > A subsidiary of the University of Glamorgan > Company registration 6013744, registered in England and Wales > > > This e-mail is intended for the above named only, and may contain > privileged or > confidential information. 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