hallo frank, On 01 Nov 2008, at 12:04, Frank Barknecht wrote: > Hallo, > >> very often i find myself sitting infront of a pretty trivial patching >> problem, but i just can't find the right objects names in pd. > > One major difference between Max and Pd is the number of available > objects. Ignoring objects that aren't available in Pd at all (like the > Jitter stuff) generally I'd say we have four kinds of differences: > > 1) some objects just have different names (osc~ vc. cycle~) > 2) some serve the same purpose, but behave differently and > may have different names (spigot vs. gate) > 3) some can be build from Pd's builtin objects (counter) > 4) some objects are only available as externals (Cyclone is great) > > Items 1) and 2) just require users to learn a different vocabulary. > There's no way around that, but it shouldn't be too hard. With Pd and > Max this is a bit like learning different variants of natural > languages e.g. the Austrian and the German German - "Sessel" vs. > "Stuhl". ;) > > It would be cool to document these differences in a Wiki page or so.
yes, definitely. > Which solution to choose from 3) and 4) depends on what kind of > philosophy you are a fan of, or what kind of "patching school" you > want to be a part of. Externals sometimes have to be used, but quite > often you can also approach a task using just the builtin objects. sure. > This requires a slightly deeper knowledge of Pd, but in the long run > will make your patches be more portable and easier to install. Of > course for some purposes you have to use externals for various reasons > like performance. i'm still finding out about pd, but in max it's quite easy to include and use a set of externals - not much different than using abstractions. a few years ago i was very much into "doing everything in max". but when i started learning a little java and c, i noticed that a lot of things are way easier to code in an external. actually i think we probably agree on this one. > > But objects like [uzi] or [counter] can be patched perfectly well > using only what Pd vanilla offers - yes, of course. [uzi] was just a simple example. but i didn't know about [until] - so, thanks for your uzi abstraction. best wishes, volker. _______________________________________________ [email protected] mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
