the webpage is down, we are trying to get it up ASAP, a damn back up was schedulled for today...
Anyway, you guys can still get the forms at http://porres.googlepages.com/Art.zip http://porres.googlepages.com/Workshop.zip http://porres.googlepages.com/Paper.zip then go to http://pdcon09.devolts.org/openconf.php click at Make a Submission, fill the form, get an ID then go to Upload File to send us the PDFs Sorry for the trouble. other extra files can be sent to pdco...@estudiolivre.orgon Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 3:55 PM, <pd-list-requ...@iem.at> wrote: > Send Pd-list mailing list submissions to > pd-list@iem.at > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pd-list-requ...@iem.at > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pd-list-ow...@iem.at > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Pd-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Unified Library was Re: Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th > deadline! (hard off) > 2. Re: change samplerate locally (hard off) > 3. Re: steep filter? (hard off) > 4. Re: steep filter? (Jo?o Pais) > 5. Re: steep filter? (hard off) > 6. Re: change samplerate locally (hard off) > 7. Re: change samplerate locally (Martin Peach) > 8. Re: The PdCon09 webpage is down ... am I too late? > (IOhannes m zm?lnig) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 02:00:26 +0900 > From: hard off <hard....@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [PD] Unified Library was Re: Call for GSoC mentors! March > 9th deadline! > To: Hans-Christoph Steiner <h...@eds.org> > Cc: danomatika <danomat...@gmail.com>, "pd-list@iem.at" > <pd-list@iem.at>, Kyle Klipowicz <kylek...@gmail.com> > Message-ID: > <161320dd0903151000n626f6134h19ea91c5757a7...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > >>But I think that we don't really know well enough how to do the whole > thing right<< > > > i have good experience in doing a library wrong. :) i can at least point > out the flaws in that so they don't get repeated. > > none of the libraries are very good general all-purpose toolkits though, in > my opinion. i guess that's mainly because none of them have really been > designed as general toolkits. there is heaps of good stuff in rjdj, but > it's all for the phone, which has no pd GUI component. netpd on the other > hand, everything has a gui, and it's all designed to work well as a part of > the netpd system. but it's a little bit tricky to then use the netpd > patches outside of netpd. not really spent too much time with pdmtl, but > that just seems like more of a collection of patches than an actual > library. > s-abstractions and the diy library i did both fall down a bit for me > because > they tie the functionality of the patches in too much with the gui and > state > saving. > > i think what hans is talking about and what we are discussing might be > completely different things though. i think hans is talking about a truly > unified library to join together all the different pieces in pd-extended > and > put them all together in a logical and user-friendly manner. which would > be > a pretty massive project, i admit. > > i think though, what we're talking about here is more just like a > collection > of tools to build synths, sequencers, effects, samplers, recorders, > soundfile players, etc etc etc. most of the libraries already mentioned > are > doing that. but the problem is that there are no unified conventions for > patching, naming, licencing, etc. and it would be nice to have all the > best > and most useful bits of each library in one place, all working together, > and > all very simply and easily ported into other pd projects. > > i think it's well within our reach to do that at the moment. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/20090316/7b3afd16/attachment-0001.htm > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 02:33:50 +0900 > From: hard off <hard....@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [PD] change samplerate locally > To: Martin Peach <martin.pe...@sympatico.ca> > Cc: Pd List <pd-list@iem.at> > Message-ID: > <161320dd0903151033j7d543672yfb3521e6b466...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > hi martin, thanks for taking the time to reply. > > i can set pd to whatever samplerate i want in media->audio settings. i > just > checked again going through a whole bunch of values between 22050 and 44100 > and they all work. > > my problem is that the samplerate is global, and i need it only to be > local. i think the 'solution' i suggested in my 2nd post is going to be > the > way to do it, but i just don't know how to do that. > > > [*~ 2048] > > | > > [expr~ $v1%2048] > > | > > [/~ 2048] > > > > thanks. that's what i had done originally, but i couldn't hear any effect. > i guess if i really want 12-bit sound in pd, i'd have to use that construct > after each and every calculation in the signal chain. seems a fair bit of > overkill just to make the sound WORSE though! > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/20090316/af8b9f6f/attachment-0001.htm > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 02:37:58 +0900 > From: hard off <hard....@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [PD] steep filter? > To: Jo?o Pais <jmmmp...@googlemail.com> > Cc: PD-List <pd-list@iem.at> > Message-ID: > <161320dd0903151037u6caa3f54p3ac85c7f5546d...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > it's not possible to filter without ANY roll-off as far as i know. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/20090316/7c76d73b/attachment-0001.htm > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 17:57:52 -0000 > From: Jo?o Pais <jmmmp...@googlemail.com> > Subject: Re: [PD] steep filter? > To: "hard off" <hard....@gmail.com> > Cc: PD-List <pd-list@iem.at> > Message-ID: <op.uquhiqcxvpc...@jmmmp-thinkpad> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; > charset=iso-8859-15 > > and close to that? just like the spectral trim in audition or something > similar. > > > it's not possible to filter without ANY roll-off as far as i know. > > > > -- > Friedenstr. 58 > 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) > Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 > jmmmp...@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 03:02:49 +0900 > From: hard off <hard....@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [PD] steep filter? > To: Jo?o Pais <jmmmp...@googlemail.com> > Cc: PD-List <pd-list@iem.at> > Message-ID: > <161320dd0903151102s1346f4d2kdfb0f94593ea8...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > chebychev filters look good, elliptic ones look better: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Electronic_linear_filters.svg > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/20090316/fd11e740/attachment-0001.htm > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 03:26:44 +0900 > From: hard off <hard....@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [PD] change samplerate locally > To: Martin Peach <martin.pe...@sympatico.ca> > Cc: Pd List <pd-list@iem.at> > Message-ID: > <161320dd0903151126y2432df25s537be23a04256...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > actually, i just checked and that method i suggested before doesn't work at > all. it's the same as the [phasor~ 28000] - [samphold~] effect. > > > > martin, i missed this part of your mail before: > > >>Unless you're looking for aliasing artifacts, wouldn't it be easier to > use > a multi-pole low-pass filter at around 14kHz?<< > > i just tried that, and i guess what i need must be the aliasing artifacts. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/20090316/f4e6b417/attachment-0001.htm > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:31:51 -0400 > From: Martin Peach <martin.pe...@sympatico.ca> > Subject: Re: [PD] change samplerate locally > To: hard off <hard....@gmail.com> > Cc: Pd List <pd-list@iem.at> > Message-ID: <blu0-smtp3610f942f55ae14a9282e9ed...@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > hard off wrote: > > hi martin, thanks for taking the time to reply. > > > > i can set pd to whatever samplerate i want in media->audio settings. i > > just checked again going through a whole bunch of values between 22050 > > and 44100 and they all work. > > Yes you're right. I should have checked first ;) > Maybe writing into a table at 44100 and using [tabread4~] with a signal > that is quantized to the ratio of sample rates would work? > > > > > my problem is that the samplerate is global, and i need it only to be > > local. i think the 'solution' i suggested in my 2nd post is going to be > > the way to do it, but i just don't know how to do that. > > > > > > [*~ 2048] > > | > > [expr~ $v1%2048] > > | > > [/~ 2048] > > > > > > thanks. that's what i had done originally, but i couldn't hear any > > effect. i guess if i really want 12-bit sound in pd, i'd have to use > > that construct after each and every calculation in the signal chain. > > seems a fair bit of overkill just to make the sound WORSE though! > > > > > > Well 12-bit sound is pretty good, as good as audio cassette with no > dolby. You should try replacing 2048 with 128 or less to hear true lo-fi. > > Martin > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:58:12 +0100 > From: IOhannes m zm?lnig <zmoel...@iem.at> > Subject: Re: [PD] The PdCon09 webpage is down ... am I too late? > To: danomatika <danomat...@gmail.com> > Cc: "pd-list@iem.at" <pd-list@iem.at> > Message-ID: <49bd4fc4.9070...@iem.at> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > danomatika wrote: > > Does the PdCon 09 page work for anyone? > > > > Naturally, I forgot to apply and realized it is due today and now the > > page is down ... :( > > try these instead: > > paper submit page: > http://pdcon09.devolts.org/author/submit.php > > paper upload page (once you have submitted it): > http://pdcon09.devolts.org/author/upload.php > > > cheers > > fgmadsr > IOhannes > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list mailing list > Pd-list@iem.at > to manage your subscription (including un-subscription) see > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > End of Pd-list Digest, Vol 48, Issue 67 > *************************************** > -- Alexandre Torres Porres cel. 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