The prognosis was meagative on my two recent fedora excursions, f8 and f10. Pd would work fine but most extended specific obects couldn't be created. I lost a lot of time figuring this out. Moved to ubuntu today. Much happier now.

With this new tutorial manual there are a few total beginner things that I've learned the hard way that could be included. There is no reason not to consolidate info. Small links with basic info get lost in most scene/communities I find. My two cents.

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On 19 Mar 2009, at 00:27, Hans-Christoph Steiner <h...@eds.org> wrote:


On Mar 18, 2009, at 11:57 AM, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote:

Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Worst comes to worst, Pd and Pd-extended runs best on Debian-based distros like Debian, Ubuntu, pure:dyne, etc.
.hc

pd-extended might work on pure:dyne (after all, it's Debian with extra packages), but it won't ever be in the live distro, and installing it will remove all the supported pd externals from pure:dyne (they depend on puredata, which pd-extended conflicts with, or should if it has been packaged properly).

One of the main reasonings behind Pd in pure:dyne is to package each library on its own, to avoid both the maintenance nightmares of a huge package build system and the tricky timing involved to get "all externals working at once". Each package can be tested separately and upgraded separately, increasing quality and saving bandwidth.

I think that's the way that Pd-extended should be packaged for Debian too. The monolithic package is not a good design, but was easy to do. We were talking a while back about merging efforts, I think it would be great to revisit that discussion.

Then the next step would be getting those packages into Debian. It seems Guenter has stopped updating his Debian packages, 'puredata' is at 0.40.3, pd-externals is no longer in the repo, etc.

BTW, pure:dyne has packages for pdp + friends, with no pdp_metro_setup issue:

$ nm -D /usr/lib/pd/extra/pdp/pdp.pd_linux | grep metro
0000f9f0 T pdp_metro_setup

So I guess the original issue is another pd-extended bug.

Yeah, on Fedora only though. I don't use Fedora at all so I am at a loss. PDP works fine in Pd-extended on Ubuntu and Debian.

.hc




Claude
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