Yes, there is some absurdity to this conversation. I guess Frank and I have been doing this for so long, its just part of a game we play ;-)

Anyway, I could give the instructions in one step:

1. use Pd-extended ;-)

I don't think many newbies really want to get into the nitty-gritty of hand-built Pd installs, but this conversation did make me smooth out the installation process. Before, the 10 steps were for creating a library from scratch. I think its pretty simple considering. Now, the libraries are pre-built in SVN, so you only need to:

1. cd /path/to/your/extra (or wherever you want to install stuff)
2. svn co
3. svn co
4. pd -lib libdir -lib purepd -lib mapping

If that doesn't work for you, there is a bug. That has been working with Pd-extended for some years now. As for issues with this setup, please elaborate on them so we can fix things.


On Apr 6, 2009, at 10:37 AM, Luigi wrote:

Hey List.
not wanting to offend anybody. But this has some good amount of absurdity in it, i think.
And for any Newbie following that its actually quite frightening.

Frank calls his way of doing "hell" and it only includes 3 steps.
And Hans Christoph calls his way "easy" and it includes 10 steps ....

.... monster monster-hell......

Another thing i always found strange about tthe mapping-collection. If you want to use the helpfiles in one of your patches and actually use more then one you get into conflicts

What needs to be done to restructure mapping ?? I could help maybe, because its a library i used very often and found it very useful. I would be happy to do something good to that library ;-)

All the Best


Am 06.04.2009 um 15:58 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:

On Apr 6, 2009, at 8:33 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote:

Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote:

1) SVN/externals - otherwise [center_point] isn't found
2) SVN/externals/mapping - to find [mapping/reverse] and

These two were meant to have reversed reasons.

Hmm, because you are doing it wrong?  Try this:

1. create a single place to store externals, I recommend ~/pd- externals/
2. add it to your path
3. cd /path/to/pure-data/trunk/abstractions/
4. cp -a purepd ~/pd-externals

(mapping is still poorly organized in SVN, so its a bit harder)

5. cd /path/to/pure-data/trunk/externals/mapping
6. mkdir ~/pd-externals/mapping
7. cp -a *.pd ~/pd-externals/mapping
8. cd help
9. cp -a *-help.pd ~/pd-externals/mapping
10. touch ~/pd-externals/mapping/mapping-meta.pd

That's it. Then if you have the libdir.pd_linux loader loaded, you can also load that as a lib using any of the standard methods. (you'll need the libdir.c from SVN).

pd -lib libdir -lib mapping
declare -lib mapping
import mapping



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