On lun, 2009-05-11 at 13:09 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: > On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 11:26 +0800, Lao Yu wrote: > > Hi, > > > > since the release of F9 I look at the audio part of Linux - I > > personally find it a complete disaster and 'user-hostile' to be > > polite. Many on this list are software specialists, so please don't > > look down on someone who doesn't want to follow 3 pages of > > instructions of how to make pulse audio work 'on top of' ALSA - > > especially if there are follow-ups on the relevant forums that they > > still don't have any signal output. > > My laptop currently runs F9 (or WinXP) and works is an mp3 player, > > full stop. From posts on the fedora list I understand that my > > situation is even better than many others who don't even get that to > > work. > > My question is, how does Ubuntu studio compare to Fedora? Before I > > start doctoring with my laptop and install Ubuntu 9.04 instead of F9 > > I'm scratching my head. > > Thanks for any comments. > > you can download an ubuntu iso and burn it on cd and start it safely > from there. you will quickly see, how well your soundcard and card > configuration in your laptop is supported. personally, i don't have any > experience with fedora, but i'd say for ubuntu at least it is difficult > to make general statement. of course, the ubuntu dev team is eager to > fix as many problems as possible, but still in most cases it is simply a > matter of whether the included alsa version supports a certain > card/configuration or not. i've made very different experiences in terms > of sound working out of the box, altough most of the time it works > without tweaking. > > i found, that the jack audioserver is a lot easier to setup and > integrates much better in more recent versions of ubuntu. after starting > jack (e.g. with qjackctl), it's even possible to launch pulseaudio > automatically, so that it uses jack as the backend. this means, that > even non-jack capable applications can be captured by puredata, for > instance. > > i mention jack, because i found, that puredata runs quite stable with > jack and has only little dropouts. it sometimes it still works well with > jack, eventough you get a lot of 'tried but couldn't sync A/D/A' > messages and crackling noises with alsa. > > before doctoring around, i really would only test your setup from a > live-cd - just to check, if you can get a workable setup in one session. > if not, and if you dislike tinkering around, then let it be, i'd say. > > in order to test, if puredata & audio works for you, you need to perform > the following steps (after you launched the live-cd): > - enable the multiverse repository: > http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-enable-the-universe-and-multiverse-repositories-in-ubuntu-804-hardy.html > - update your apt cache: sudo aptitude update > - install pd and jack audio server: > sudo aptitude install puredata qjackctl > - start jack: qjackctl & > - start puredata: pd -jack -channels 2 > > if you come that far within a reasonable amount of time, ubuntu might be > an option for you. > > let us know your progess. > > roman
Hi, I've tried FC but I've been a happy Ubuntu Studio 8.04 user for, well, about a year now. I used to run Debian sid, but compiling a RT-kernel was such a pain and such a time-consuming process (not to talk about the nVidia proprietary driver that made me mad a couple of time every year) that I was glad to switch to Ubuntu. The only drawxback: no Hardy Studio live CD. But it's very stable with Pd+Jack+Ardour+ Edirol UA25, 8ms delay on a Dell Laptop, easy to install, easy to maintain. I even installed it on my older Shuttle running an old 1.3ghz AMD, and it runs like a charm. ++ OH Here is my sources.list: cat /etc/apt/sources.list # # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu-Studio 8.04 _Hardy Heron_ - Release i386 (20080423.1)]/ hardy main multiverse restricted universe #deb cdrom:[Ubuntu-Studio 8.04 _Hardy Heron_ - Release i386 (20080423.1)]/ hardy main multiverse restricted universe # See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to # newer versions of the distribution. deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main restricted deb-src http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main restricted ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the ## distribution. deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates main restricted deb-src http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates main restricted ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security ## team. deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy universe deb-src http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy universe deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates universe deb-src http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates universe ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in ## multiverse WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu ## security team. deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy multiverse deb-src http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy multiverse deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates multiverse deb-src http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates multiverse ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports' ## repository. ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as ## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes ## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features. ## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review ## or updates from the Ubuntu security team. # deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-backports main restricted universe multiverse # deb-src http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-backports main restricted universe multiverse ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from Canonical's ## 'partner' repository. This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is ## offered by Canonical and the respective vendors as a service to Ubuntu ## users. # deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu hardy partner # deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu hardy partner deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security main restricted deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security main restricted deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security universe deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security universe deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security multiverse deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security multiverse ## ubuntu from scratch Labomedia.org ## all kinds of nice audio/video/driverq packages deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/ufs/ hardy main deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/ufs/ hardy-testing main ## medibuntu ## non-free codecs deb http://fr.packages.medibuntu.org/ hardy free non-free deb-src http://fr.packages.medibuntu.org/ hardy free non-free ## Pour les paquets supercollider et gedit-supercollider deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/artfwo/ubuntu hardy main deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/artfwo/ubuntu hardy main _______________________________________________ [email protected] mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
