--- On Sun, 8/9/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner <h...@at.or.at> wrote:

> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <h...@at.or.at>
> Subject: Re: [PD] Help Docs: element vs. item
> To: "Jonathan Wilkes" <jancs...@yahoo.com>
> Cc: "puredata mailing list" <pd-list@iem.at>
> Date: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 9:37 PM
> 
> That's a good point and a tough question.  It should
> be consistently documented, but its not totally clear
> how.  My guess right now, says that atom selectors
> should not be considered an 'element'.  So these would
> be both 3 element lists:
> 
> list one two three
> 1 2 3
> 
> Check the Pd Definitions wiki on http://puredata.info/dev for some discussion 
> on this
> stuff.  And please add anything there that you think
> should be there.

On the Pd Definitions wiki, they are referred to as elements, and I've 
already changed the reference patches to reflect this.  Because of the 
way they are laid out, I don't think there is any ambiguity between first 
element and selector in the help patches (I don't think "selector" is 
used in any of them, but I'll check and make sure).

Each help patch also has a common [help] abstraction at the bottom, which 
has a place for definitions.  I haven't gotten to it yet, but when I do 
I'll explore the definitions wiki in more detail.

-Jonathan

> 
> .hc
> 
> Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> > [list one two three(
> > 
> > How should the help patches refer to "one" above: as
> the first element or the first item in the list? 
> Currently the reference docs use both, and I'd like to pick
> one and stick to it.
> > 
> > -Jonathan
> > 
> > 
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