On Sep 14, 2009, at 12:15 AM, Luke Iannini wrote:
2009/9/13 András Murányi <[email protected]>:
2009/9/13 Hans-Christoph Steiner <[email protected]>
It looks so nice on the Mac...! ;o)
It's a pity it looks way less 21th Century here on Hardy... fyi I
have
attached the screenshot.
Make you are are running Tcl/Tk 8.5 and it'll look much better.
Install
tcl8.5 and tk8.5, then run:
"update-alternatives --config wish" and choose wish8.5. Then Pd
will use
the much improved Wish 8.5.
Thanks! Now fonts are anti-aliased. Plus the startup plugins
started to
work, which means that at least some of them don't work with tcl/
tk<=8.4.
I have attached a screenshot for your viewing pleasure.
I have also mocked up a version with my ideas (which are based on my
rather limited knowledge of Pd). Please take a look at it.
Did you mock it up in Tcl?
Nay. Xara Xtreme ;o)
- Afaik the IN/OUT meters are for the DSP so I would group them
with the DSP
switch.
Makes sense.
- I would omit the IN/OUT meter switch. Can we? Or is this a CPU-
hog?
I think its useful just to be able to have less distractions.
Useful to have it? So that the meter doesn't distract you?
Or useful to omit? So the switch doesn't distract you?
;o)
- I would suggest having some kind of MIDI IN/OUT LEDs... which
could also
serve as switches in case you want to suspend MIDI reception or
transmission. In my graphics they are just simple switches but I'm
not sure
it is possible to 'blink' those switches. If not, then we could have
separate switches and LEDs.
That also sounds useful for those who use MIDI. 'pd' is not
currently
sending 'pd-gui' that info tho.
I'm one of the guys who don't use DSP, my output is nuttin-but-
MIDI. (Now
that I think there may be guys whos output is mainly to the
network...)
- A LOAD meter. Is this a CPU hog? If not, can we have it on the Pd
window? (It is quite hidden under the Media menu, imho also
because Media is
a quite fuzzy name.)
That's a nice idea. It would require writing the Tcl code to get
the load
from the OS, but that's probably easy.
Once we clean up the Media menu, we may be able to find a better
name for
it. Just my 2 cents.
- Console hide, clear. Let's try to have it somewhere right above
the
console!
A clear button is ok, it is on the File menu. As for hide, I
think its
easier to just have window resizing work well. With the pdwindow in
pd-gui-rewrite, you can manually resize it down to just the
metters/buttons.
Yo, just a quick suggestion to make Pd a better Mac citizen – closing
the console should just hide it (and you'd then be able to pull it up
again from the Window menu). That plus a "Show Console on Startup"
preference would make Pd much more
"patch-redistribution-to-those-without-Pd-knowledge" friendly.
Sorry I can't offer code, hopefully I'll have time to return to the
fold very soon!
Luke
It does that now, but there are some glitches. Give it a shot.
.hc
At the current version, i have 'Clear console' in the Edit menu but
Hide
console is gone. I think it could be kept however (regardless of
what is the
actual routine that it runs), and I even think it's not bad to
provide it on
the GUI and in the menu as well. Anyway, it's certainly good to
have a
control as close to the controlled item as possible, whenever
possible.
BTW, I have a dream which is that the console is tabbed, and the
default tab
displays system messages, while for each [print PREFIX] a new tab
is opened.
That way messages get separated by PREFIX. It's just a silly dream,
forget
it ;op
.hc
Thanks for your time!
Andras
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