--- On Sat, 9/19/09, Mathieu Bouchard <[email protected]> wrote:
> From: Mathieu Bouchard <[email protected]> > Subject: [PD] [pd REFERENCE] format [was: Re: Pd META: Author/Help Patch > Authors] > To: [email protected] > Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 9:43 PM > > On Sat, 5 Sep 2009, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > > > I've been assuming that one of the aims of tags (i.e., > keywords) is that there would be a search window in the > browser so you can search for relevant help patches/tutorial > patches/ etc. Or maybe an actual patch, since Hans has > said that the keywords should be "parsable in pd." There are > already some categories from which simple, standard keywords > may be used, but for some terms like "frequency modulation" > there's the aforementioned problem of the space between the > words. Given that, frequency_modulation is certainly > one solution, and users can get used to using underscores > when searching, but why not also include "fm" and > "modulation" in case the user happens to type that (which > would be completely reasonable)? > > Typically, with tags, the user has access to the list of > all currently existing tags, so that the user can choose > from there. You could have a feature to search by regexp > and/or thesaurus on the list of tags, but when you look for > a tag in patches, the goal is sort of to have one concept > per tag and one tag per concept, no synonyms, no homonyms. > > > > What's a tag? > > A keyword. > > That's pretty terse. What are the expectations about tags? > what about synonyms and homonyms? what do the tags mean, > that the whole text of the patch doesn't? > > Because, what's the advantage of searching in tags vs > searching in the whole text? I thought it was mostly a speed issue, in which searching for 3 or 4 tags in a single file would be quicker than doing a full text search of every help patch. But if the user has access to all the tags and goes from there, I see your point about naming conventions. > > > I saw your nick in the irc discussion of the PDDP, > didn't you actually > > take part in some of these decisions? > > What??... what does "take part" mean to you? I don't > understand. I remember reading something about the "desiredata people" wanting related objects in their own subpatch, and I think I read some comments you had about putting general object behavior in a centralized location like an abstraction, rather than repeating it for every help file. > > I don't recall my opinions being represented in PDDP, but > then, I don't recall trying to push them. Why didn't you push (for) them? -Jonathan > > _ _ __ ___ _____ ________ _____________ > _____________________ ... > | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: > +1.514.383.3801 > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > [email protected] > mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > _______________________________________________ [email protected] mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
