On Oct 14, 2009, at 8:19 PM, João Pais wrote:
- alt-[key] doesn't work on menus? alt-f should make file menu open
Does that work on other versions of Pd?
the only other version I have is vanilla 0.42-5. guess what, it
doesn't work as well. probably it never did.
would it be part of the job now to make it work?
Sure, sounds like something good to have. Do you want to take on that
project?
- text editor doesn't work, is he already gone? data properties'
editor
works.
It just needs to be implemented. Any volunteers? I've never used
it so I don't know what its supposed to do. Or really, the better
approach IMHO is to make the in-place editing good enough so you
don't need the Text Editor.
actually I never used the text editor, and don't know if anyone did
(the data structures editor yes, but that's independent). maybe it's
better just to take it out?
- remembered something that I sugested already: what about return
closes an object while typing? eliminates the need for an extra click.
- how about also making the line breaks on comments to work, would
it go into this work batch?
- in the past I asked for pd to save window position also when
windows are
saved on a 2nd screen (windows were always displayed on the 1st
screen).
today this backfired, as while working with 1 screen (on a "2-
screen"
patch) not all windows of the patch were visible. canvas values
were "#N
canvas 1422 54" on pd file. While I salute the possibilty of having
windows automatically appear on multiple screens, how about also
making
sure that they appear only in 1 screen of there aren't any more?
E.g. if this window's X value is 1422 and my x resolution is 1400,
probably subtracting the screen resolution of the window value
should be
enough. can tcl/tk get these elements? Another representation of
what I
meant:
if canvasres >= screenres, then canvasres=canvasres-screenres
(apply to
both x and y)
I don't have a multi-monitor setup, so I can't test this. Ideally
you'd edit the code to get it working properly. It should be
pretty straightforward, the code in question is in pdtk_canvas.tcl
in the proc called 'pdtk_canvas_new'. You can see it gets the
'geometry' from Pd as an argument to the proc, and is then set
using "wm geometry $mytoplevel $geometry" If you just do the math
before running the 'wm geometry' and put the right values into
$geometry, then 'wm geometry' should do the right thing.
the problem is that the only language I can program in is Pd. C and
others I don't really know how to do anything.
It should be very easy to test for you, in case you want to: just
open your pd file in a text editor, locate any line that defines a
windows - format "#N canvas 914 187 335 381 gui 0;", being "gui" the
window name -, and add 1000 or something to the first number (x
position). If you can't see it when you open the patch in pd, it
means it's still not ok.
Tcl is not hard, and there is nothing to be lost by trying it. :-D
- I get the impression that redrawing of data structures with
toggle in
the inlet (i.e. visible/invisible) is slower now. maybe just an
impression? but anyway, is it possible to enhance this, is the gui
work
related with that?
Do you have an example patch?
I have a complicated patch with some structures in it, I can send to
it you later. but I guess any patch will do - including your solitude.
Ideally there would be a patch that clearly illustrates the problem
and nothing else.
- I use the [hcs/sys_gui] command to make my own color scheme
(white is
too agressive) and to place the pd window on a corner (wm
geometry). These
don't work now, are they going to be obsolete, or they have to
adapt to
the new tcl code?
They should work fine, but the color scheme variables are part of
Pd-extended, this is still Pd-vanilla. I think you'd be better off
porting your color scheme to a Tcl plugin. Its not hard, plus you
can do a lot more with it.
http://puredata.info/dev/PdGuiRewriteTheming
sorry, but I can't understand what "you can drop them into pd/
startup" means. I see no folder or file with that name here.
Its not getting installed yet on Windows. You can create 'startup' in
the folder where you installed Pd 0.43/gui-rewrite (\Program Files\pd
by default). Then you can drop and *-plugin.tcl file there to have it
loaded when Pd runs. Here are some of the plugins available:
http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/branches/pd-gui-rewrite/0.43/startup/
.hc
- x and y, x only + y only have all the same result. but I think
that was
the normal behaviour before anyway (never used this feature)
I've never used it either, I think it might be really old cruft...
I would ask the higher powers (miller/iem people) and get rid of it.
- Help->About: Pd doesn't work (so I can't tell exactly which
version it
is)
Yeah... not implemented yet... it tells you the version at startup
in the Pd window.
Pd version 0.43-0devel-20091008, in case it's important to know.
Anything else specific you want to be checked, Hans?
It would be great if you can use it for daily use, and report
issues. I'm starting a project where I will be doing the same
thing. That's where we will really discover bugs and issues.
should be doing that from tomorrow, maybe. doesn't the ubuntu
version comes with the pd-ext material, like the windows one?
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