Hi HC,

thanks for clarification. I will try to find some time to stick it in the FLOSS Manual Pduino chapters later on. I did get the ATMEGA8s running with the new baudrate, now I have a problem with the ATMEG328 but I will deal with that tomorrow.

I tried to get all 12 students using same versions of everything but you know how hard that can be. What was supposed to be a 10 minute installation took the entire afternoon, along with questions about motors, circuits, mechanics and everything else in the middle of debugging. Not an optimal moment for concentration to fix a glitch... maybe I will stick to hardware-only workshops from now on, computers are only good for causing ulcers and hairloss!

I landed here Sunday and started the workshop the next morning so I had no time to investigate what hardware the school had. I told them they should upgrade the ATMEGAs they have but you know how long that takes at any kind of institution ;-)

Best from Helsinki!
D.

Quoting Hans-Christoph Steiner <h...@at.or.at>:



On Mar 10, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Derek Holzer wrote:

List goofballs aside, I think it would be good to clarify all this stuff.

The split between the things available on HCs site and what comes with Arduino is quite confusing. I was only using the ones from HC to keep the versions matching.

No argument here, its just a matter of finding the time to do it.  With
Firmata 2.1 the baudrate should be totally stable (that's the big
change between 2.0 and 2.1), and further updates shouldn't cause
issues.  I'm working on finalizing the Pduino 0.5 release.

The Arduino-provided Firmata stuff does not contain the Pd objects themselves, and if the Pd objects must match certain Firmata then it would be good to make a note of that somewhere... maybe on the site where the Pd stuff is downloaded?

For the latest Pduino, either use the included one, or the one in
Arduino 0018.

And besides that, if some Firmata says it supports ATMEGA8 then I believe what it says. I spent half of yesterday smashing my face against the keyboards of 12 students, trying to teach them something that was broken, and the reason it was broken was not documented. So yes I get a bit cranky!

Firmata is an Arduino library which fully supports the ATMEGA8.
StandardFirmata is a firmware that uses the Firmata library that is too
big for the ATMEGA8.  As a teacher, I would highly recommend avoiding
the ATMEGA8, they are not well supported by the Arduino community.

.hc


Peace out dudes,
D.

2010/3/10 Derek Holzer <de...@umatic.nl>

Where do I find the matching Pd Firmata objects for the Firmata in Arduino
18 then?

Maybe all of this could be a bit better documented? ;-)





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