Hi frank,

Thank you for the clarifications.

However, I don't see how you would "sort" (i.e. force a desired execution order) [send~]s and [receive~]s in a useful way, that is in situations where you need them.

If the only way to force execution order is by actually creating a "wired" path with subpatches, then it seems to me it is useless for [s~]s and [r~]s because if you can sort them in a wired way, then you can just replace them by wires, so you didn't need them in the first place.

Is there some other way of "sorting" them??

> It's the
> same for messages, that's why I always keep telling newbies to
> use more
> [trigger] objects.

No it's not the same. There is a big difference. A [s] and a [r] (no tilde) _is_ equivalent to a wired connection. Ok if you have a [s xxx] and multiple [r xxx]s you cannot control the order of execution of the receives, but you _do_ know that all those [r]s (and their subtree) will be executed before the following "sibling" nodes of the [s] are executed. That is exactly the same that would happen if you had a wired connection between what is connected to [s] and all the subtrees that are connected to the [r]s: a direct one-to-many wired connection without a [trigger].

The problem with [s~] and [r~] is not the execution order among the multiple [r~]s, i.e. which [r~] is executed first. The problem is that you don't know whether the [s~] or the [r~] is executed first. That has no analogy with [s] and [r] as far as i can see.



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Matteo Sisti Sette
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