2010/5/3 Mathieu Bouchard <[email protected]> > On Sun, 2 May 2010, András Murányi wrote: > > I was implicitly ironic, based on our shared knowledge of more floating >> ideas than actual projects. >> > > Well, there's no obvious difference between saying it ironically and saying > it non-ironically. The fact is, someone could be saying the same thing and > mean it. So, thanks for explaining the joke. > > What's more, i'm in a constant state of irony towards the world i'm living in. (Sorry about it.)
> > I think Pd shall get a proper language-independent API. >> > > What would it be like ? What do you mean by "language-independent" ? > Well, an API is normally language independent so it would not be a thing to mention. The layer which plays the role of the API currently, however, uses Tcl strings often. > If you want to know why I don't start this project up myself, no it's not >> shyness or learned helplessness but the mere fact that i'm doing two jobs to >> survive and have no joules left for this. My bad. >> > > But do you have enough "joules" left to explain what you have in mind ? Yes, i do. But be sure it's fuzzy enough there that i cannot state a model by myself. > Well, i just imagine it is not easy to have one's 'child' undergo such a >> severe operation, so one might not make up a decision or even publicly >> address the question so easily. >> > > Why does that sound like it's about hiding a shameful disease ? > > And then why does this imply, that a language-independent API would have to > be replacing the current Tk support ?... Maybe it doesn't, and it could be a > good idea to have a dual system, for the sake of not making "irreversible > changes"... but branching off code, by itself, is already not nearly as > irreversible as what you can do with a scalpel on body parts... Maybe, maybe not, and this is really beyond my current knowledge. Forking, i suppose, will need a significant amount of additional resources, as Tcl plays a great part in current Pd. So i'm still interested in debating over Tcl - whether we think it's fast enough, smart enough, and future-proof enough to stay with. Andras
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