Woops, sorry. I realize now you already made the points that I was trying to 
make, albeit more elegantly then I :D I mis read you first sentence ...

On Jun 16, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Dan Wilcox wrote:

> 
> On Jun 15, 2010, at 10:20 PM, András Murányi wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Mathieu Bouchard <[email protected]> wrote:
>> [...]
>> 
>> As far as I know, the pd gui rewrite adds the ability for custom tcl/tk 
>> snippets through the command menu. This could be just a tcl call to svn diff.
>> 
>> Ok, so, you have to hunt all over the internet for pieces of tcl code that 
>> take 1k each ? Pd has this concept of externals, that are rather 
>> plug-and-play (or at least: can be), and then Pd-extended changed the deal 
>> and made it no-plug-just-play, and then Pd-devel ("gui-rewrite") would have 
>> those snippets of tcl floating around so that you can download your 
>> menu-items one by one ? A little bundling would help...
>> 
>> Exactly, please no tcl plugins for pd floating around the net.
>> I see these reasons why having plugins is good for us:
>> - itsy-bitsy code that was not made up on a declared requirement can (and 
>> shall) make it into the main codebase if it proves sense. A question may be 
>> how is it decided - for me it's still better to write up a plugin sometimes 
>> than huff'n'puff trying to push something into the svn that no one needed.
>> - externals, libs have a chance to modify the Pd GUI in the easiest way.
> 
> 
> Well if this is the case, then why are their no externals to add features 
> that have been asked for before like snap to grid, auto alignment, etc. As 
> far as I can tell, the gui settings people want are as varied as the 
> externals they use. This would provide an easy means to customize the gui 
> without having to load an actual external object into a canvas. BTW I'm 
> talking about the main gui, not just canvas windows with objects. I don't 
> understand how you can have any problem with that as it allows them more 
> freedom to extend the gui to their liking and share the code which could then 
> be included back into pd-extended. Of course you can just turn off all the 
> extra plugins and not change the gui, so what's the difference?
> 
> If you don't want the tcl plugin idea, then what should replace it? Special 
> externals? Where are they? Do I need to keep a canvas window open all the 
> time to have my snap-to-grid working?
> 
> Then again, I haven't used the gui rewrite build much more then to check it 
> out, so I don't know the details and shouldn't speak for Hans.
> 
> 

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Dan Wilcox
danomatika.com
robotcowboy.com




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