On 06/30/2010 06:12 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
>> imho this would not be worth the effort, and a horrible idea to make
>> deliberatly unreadable pd-patches...
>
> If you keep on saying things like that, I will make a patch obfuscator
> patch just so that the content of threads about obfuscation would shift
> away from hypothesis and towards real issues. That would be worth it, in
> terms of getting the debate to evolve past what pd-list was saying a
> decade ago or so.
i meant using obfuscation (and making an obfuscatore for using it)
is not worth it. if a obfuscated patch is very ingenious than it might
make sense to spend the time to decipher it. if not, than it is easy
to build everything yourself anyway. i have attached my proof of concept
pd-obfuscator. (only random positioning, but adding deletion of comments
and making cryptic names should be not too hard)
it was quite easy indeed, and i learned that pd is not as bad for
manipulationg strings as i thought it was. and i did not know before
that the (quite powefull) list-objects are in vanilla(?).(they are not
in (my) help-intro.pd)
bis denn!
martin
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#X obj 38 -12 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty load 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1
-1;
#X msg 23 71 rewind;
#X msg 82 70 read input.pd;
#X obj 53 40 t b b;
#X obj 292 32 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty mess 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1
-1;
#X obj 585 158 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty save 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1
-1;
#X obj 197 106 until;
#X obj 84 511 list;
#X obj 246 418 list split 2;
#X obj 37 473 list;
#X obj 83 446 pack f f;
#X obj 81 419 random 500;
#X obj 161 419 random 500;
#X obj 517 555 textfile;
#X msg 574 469 rewind;
#X msg 629 467 clear;
#X obj 84 380 t b b b l;
#X obj 100 672 list split 1;
#X obj 88 588 until;
#X obj 56 631 list append;
#X obj 198 647 bang;
#X msg 457 447 add2 \$1;
#X obj 120 557 t b a;
#X msg 307 485 add;
#X msg 584 377 write output.pd;
#X obj 295 73 t b b b;
#X obj 119 227 select #X;
#X obj 119 197 list split 1;
#X obj 73 348 list;
#X msg 8 423 #X obj;
#X obj 294 270 list;
#X obj 115 279 list split 1;
#X obj 110 304 select obj;
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#X obj 207 235 t b;
#X obj 223 286 t b;
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