Whether or not the user sent the e-mail to a public or private list is beside the point IMO. One must accept in the very act of sending ANY e-mail that they have risked having this information released to the public.

IANAL, but I only think it'd be reasonable he could sue if he could demonstrate that this "violation of privacy" was intentional or the result of neglect, not the result of his own incompetence and lack of common sense.

-Johnny

On 08/23/2010 07:20 AM, Pierre Massat wrote:
Hi,
Are the two messages of any interest to Pd users? If the answer is no,
then i don't really see the point in not removing them, although i
understand that this would go against the pd-list rules. This thing is i
find this list to be extremely helpful and i d be very sad if this
threat is credible and the future of pd-list actually endangered.
I don't know anything about internet-related laws, though...

Pierre

2010/8/23 IEM - network operating center (IOhannes m zmoelnig)
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>

    hi all,

    sorry for posting an OT mail to the mainlist, but i really want to have
    as many opinions as posible on this.


    i (as list admin) have just received an email by somebody who wants
    their mail to be removed from the archive:
    <snip>
    Subject: FORMAT NOTICE

    August, 22 2010

    I posted a message on the pd-announce list, being not aware that it was
    a public list: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-announce/XXXX

    Someone replied to my message, also publicly, on the pd-list list:
    http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/XXXXX

    Today, I ask you to remove these two messages from your website,
    because I don't want my name to appear publicly on the web.

    If they are not removed within 15 days, I will do the necessary to
    sue you.

    XXX XXXXX
    </snip>


    i must say, that i'm a bit perplex.

    while in principal i'm not opposed to removing the post if they have any
    problems with it,
    however, i find the tone at least impertinent, and would prefer to not
    give way to a threat to sue.

    i have thus answered:
    <answer>
    hold on!

    i understand that you probably don't want an unsubscribe request to be
    available in a public archive.

    however, all the pd-mailinglists have always made it clear, that
    everything will be archived and made available to the public.

    thus, by subscribing to one of those mailinglists, you have given your
    agreement that all your postings to the list will be made available via
    those archives.

    furthermore, you are of course free to ask that your posting is removed
    from the archives.
    however, if somebody replied to your posting and has made this available
    to the public, then i don't see what entitles you to request a removal.
    it is their posting.

    the pd-lists are an open forum.
    they are no place to threaten people with sueing.

    fgmadsr
    IOhannes
    </answer>


    what do you think of all this?


    fgmasdr
    IOhannes


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