On Sep 13, 2010, at 11:59 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
--- On Mon, 9/13/10, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [PD] Hi, new user. Question about max/msp and PD
To: "Jonathan Wilkes" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Frank Barknecht" <[email protected]>, "Mathieu Bouchard" <[email protected]
>, [email protected]
Date: Monday, September 13, 2010, 11:46 PM
On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 09:46 -0700,
Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
--- On Mon, 9/13/10, Mathieu Bouchard <[email protected]>
wrote:
From: Mathieu Bouchard <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [PD] Hi, new user. Question about
max/msp and PD
To: "Frank Barknecht" <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Date: Monday, September 13, 2010, 5:19 PM
On Mon, 13 Sep 2010, Frank Barknecht
wrote:
Oh, and instead of [transport] just use a
metro with a
counter sending to some global receiver. Read
from this with
[select] to get a kind of Max-5's [timepoint]
clone. See,
there's no magic behind these new Max 5 features,
they just
unified a bit what all Max/Pd users do anyway in
their
patches.
It's also that it's more marketable if they add
rather
trivial features just so that they can say «Max
5 has more
features about time scale !». It's easier than
to explain
to them that Max doesn't need those features.
Better object documentation in Pd is a trivial feature
in this sense--
it's easier for you to spend your time documenting GF
objects than
to explain how to read the source code. (See,
there's no magic behind
those GF objects!)
Also, it's more marketable if Max has an object like
[textedit] where
the user can type multi-line text into a box.
It's easier than
picking through the Toxy graveyard and learning that
you can't send
messages to the widget unless its containing canvas is
visible, then
trying to work with [entry] and having the data you
typed in the
box disappear because you minimized the window.
Then realizing that the
whole reason you're looking for an object that
corresponds to [textedit]
is because you can't resize message boxes (and they
don't appear on a gop canvas).
-Jonathan
You could try tkwidgets/text. I really should finish
that library. Its
close to done, and it'll probably a suite of nice GUI
objects, including
something like textedit.
.hc
That sounds cool.
Hm, I was reading through the sourcerepositories page on
puredata.info, and I'm not sure how I'd go about trying those
objects out. Do I need to compile pd-extended from svn, or is
there a way to just compile that library and use it with the
nightly build? (I tried make in tkwidgets/ but got the "no rule
to make target" error.)
-Jonathan
Ok, I fixed the build system and undid some silly changes that broke
everything. It is now in a working state:
svn co
https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/trunk/externals/tkwidgets
cd tkwidgets
make
You should have a recent version of Pd-extended installed in order for
it to build.
.hc
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