On Thu, 30 Sep 2010, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

iirc, the reason for obsoleting [namecanvas] is that it allows the dynamic patching engine to get into an inconsistent (probably crashing) state (true, there are other things that allow this as well, without getting obsoleted).

Especially, you can crash pd using the thing that is supposed to be replacing namecanvas, using a total of 3 objects. So, the reason for obsoleting [namecanvas] is bogus. Here's an attachment for demonstrating that.

anyhow, [namecanvas] has no concept of "this" either.

What's a concept of "this", to you ? It seems that we don't agree on this... we're not using the same vocabulary.

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| Mathieu Bouchard ------------------------------ Villeray, Montréal, QC
#N canvas 595 0 450 300 10;
#N canvas 0 0 450 300 crap 1;
#X obj 134 90 s pd-crap;
#X msg 134 64 clear;
#X connect 1 0 0 0;
#X restore 82 89 pd crap;
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