On Jul 9, 2011, at 8:07 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:



--- On Sat, 7/9/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features
To: "Jonathan Wilkes" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Ivica Ico Bukvic" <[email protected]>, [email protected]
Date: Saturday, July 9, 2011, 10:38 PM

On Jul 9, 2011, at 1:48 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:



--- On Sat, 7/9/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[email protected]>
wrote:

[...]

The problem with forks is if improvements don't
migrate
upstream.

I think it's both a problem-with and a cause-of.

Yup, that makes sense.

Then we don't benefit from sharing the
fixes.  Making things migrate upstream takes
time in
itself.

How does one figure out who has the responsibility to
make sure
things migrate upstream (for example: [initbang] and
[closebang])?

Mostly by someone deciding its important enough that they
want to work
on it themself, and then lots of testing and
communication.

Ok. So in patch id#2838176, what is Guenter's idea for a clean implementation of tooltips that you were referring to? I didn't find anything on the user or dev list.

Hmm, I can't remember what Günter's proposal was, but I do have a vague idea of how to do it cleanly. I think it should be similar to the way its done in Max/MSP. Basically there is a standard function, something like nlet_info(), which returns the tooltip info. Pd would then check whether an object had that function when it loaded the binary, and if so register it in the tooltips.

.hc


Try getting a patch into the Linux kernel,
that'll make Pd seem like cake ;-)

Yes, I would hope that making changes to the core of
the largest
free software project in the history of computing is a
wee bit more
difficult than making changes to Pd.

Actually, there are much bigger projects than Linux, things
like
Debian are quite a bit larger in scale.

I read a white paper on total development cost of a linux distro and just remembered "linux". I think the distro in the paper was Fedora 9, which was estimated to be almost an order of magnitude more expensive than the Linux kernel.

-Jonathan


.hc


-Jonathan


.hc



-Jonathan

And
anything assigned to Miller and reviewed
positively by
IOhannes I'm
going to defer any action on until Miller
responds.

.hc


-Jonathan



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