I don't think this solves the problem, I load them in order [t b b]->[import 
vbap]       ->[import define_loudspeakers]
and still get that "error: vbap: no method for 'loudspeaker-matrices'"error.I 
made sure vbap is not in the list of binaries to load. ggee is, not sure 
whether it loads it.I also get the warning "vbap: Could not open loudspeaker 
data file .../ls_setup"By the way, [vbap] is so poorly doccumented... :(
The whole sequence of warning I get when loading a simple example is:
define_loudspeakers - v1.0.3 - 12 Aug 2006 - (c) Ville Pulkki 1999-2006vbap: 
already loadeddefine_loudspeakers: already loadedvbap: Using default 
loudspeaker setupvbap: Could not open loudspeaker data file .../ls_setup

So, what functional version should I use? We need vbap working for our piece.
Thanks!Josep M
> From: [email protected]
> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 12:51:27 -0500
> To: [email protected]
> CC: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [PD] error: vbap: no method for 'loudspeaker-matrices'
> 
> 
> On Feb 14, 2012, at 11:26 AM, katja wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Christoph Kuhr <[email protected]> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> >> but when i want to use define_loudspeakers with a vbap module, pd 
> >> complains:
> >> 
> >> error: vbap: no method for 'loudspeaker-matrices'
> > 
> > 
> > In vbap.c method 'vbap_matrix' is called via message
> > 'loudspeaker-matrices', yet the method is not recognized. Possibly
> > because the method expects a Symbol argument as well. From the help
> > patches I can't understand what it really needs. The C-code speaks of
> > 'lsset', loudspeaker set I assume.
> 
> I think there is a bug in that version.  To workaround it, you need to load 
> [vbap] first, then [define_loudspeaker]
> 
> .hc
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