On Thu, 2012-02-23 at 13:41 -0800, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > A lot of external developers obviously got used to relying on > > the libs that were loaded by default in previous versions of Pd extended. If > their help patches rely on > > some of those externals and the dev didn't give a lib prefix, those objects > won't load under the new system.
I think the better way to fix those help-files is to use an [import] or [declare] object in the help patch. This way those help patches may also work outside the Pd-extended context (for instance, if you use multi-class externals). Roman > >________________________________ > > From: András Murányi <[email protected]> > >To: pd-list <[email protected]> > >Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:01 PM > >Subject: Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX > > > > > >Huh, afaik there has been no such warning for deprecation ever planted in Pd > >so there is nothing to conform with. If it gets implemented, it will be > >something helpful and ugly - for a temporary period of time. Three ways come > >into my mind: > >- an "alert box" (modal dialog with the warning and an OK button) that > >appears when you click the menu item, and of course when you click OK the > >actual path dialog appears, > >- a sort of "textual link" somewhere on the path dialog box itself, could > >look like "Editing paths here is deprecated. See why, and how to edit > >paths", and it would lead to a certain help page, > >- putting back the Save button, with no other functionality than displaying > >the aforementioned alert box. > > > >András > > > > > > > >2012/2/19 Hans-Christoph Steiner <[email protected]> > > > > > >> > >>Yup, I agree, it should be represented clearly somehow I'm open to > >>suggestions. Its been a long time policy in Pd-extended to avoid using the > >>preferences. Its only recently been enforced. > >> > >> > >>.hc > >> > >> > >>On Feb 18, 2012, at 3:26 PM, András Murányi wrote: > >> > >>Ugh, I more and more tend to think that this info shall be directly > >>accessible from the affected dialog window. Many people may think their Pd > >>is just broken and they might just have no idea what to do about it. > >>> > >>>Andras > >>> > >>> > >>>On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 20:59, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[email protected]> > >>>wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>>Setting the paths and the libraries to load at start time via the > >>>>preferences is deprecated in Pd-extended 0.43. The way to do this is: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>* for the global path, add your libraries, etc. to the built-in user path: > >>>>http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>* for a path local to a patch, use the new [path] object, following the > >>>>interface of [import] with the functionality of [declare -path] > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>If you really want to still set the paths via the preferences, you can > >>>>edit the preferences file, and Pd-extended will still load them from the > >>>>preferences file. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>So in your case, Scott, it sounds like you are using a preferences file > >>>>that has your extra paths in it already. The Preferences interface in > >>>>Pd-extended 0.43 no longer saves the paths to the file, so it doesn't > >>>>override your previously saved extra paths. Try renaming or deleting > >>>>your preferences file. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>.hc > >>>> > >>>>On Feb 18, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Scott R. Looney wrote: > >>>> > >>>>well, just to add my experience i think i can set search paths correctly, > >>>>but i would like to add that it seems to be quite difficult to have more > >>>>than one instance of PD-extended 0.43 on the computer (trying mac OS > >>>>10.6.4 w/ 32bit and 64bit builds) making it a bit challenging to check > >>>>one build's operation/stability against another on the same computer. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>for example, the help browser shows all instances of installed objects > >>>>>on the computer, and then console complains about multiple versions of > >>>>>files existing. i've tried deleting the extra paths that show up to > >>>>>limit things, which works temporarily, but on the next startup it just > >>>>>reverts back to grabbing everything it can find again. it works the same > >>>>>in every .43 pd-extended build i've tried so far (several version of > >>>>>both 32 and 64 bit builds in Dec/Jan). putting things on other drives > >>>>>doesn't work either - it will find those paths as well. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>scott > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Joson Android > >>>>><[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>Dear List! > >>>>>> > >>>>>>i love pd-extended-0.43 !! but i cannot add any search path in the > >>>>>>prefferences. It will show my new settings right when i make changes > >>>>>>but wont save anything. It prints "ripts/../extra/mapping: no such > >>>>>>object" in the pd-window. It works in pd-extended-0.42.5 . Should there > >>>>>>be a file where pd saves the path? Where is it? > >>>>>>Also, when i make changes in 0.42.5, 0.43 will know about them on next > >>>>>>startup. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>I use OSX10.6.7 and the latest autobuild of xi386 version of > >>>>>>0.43.1-extended. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Maybe it is the fault of chaotic me and chaotic computer, so i deleted > >>>>>>all old versions of pd, but that didn't help... > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Johnny > >>>>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>>>[email protected] mailing list > >>>>>>UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > >>>>>>http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>_______________________________________________ > >>>[email protected] mailing list > >>>UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > >>>http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> > >>The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. > >> > >> > > > >_______________________________________________ > >[email protected] mailing list > >UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > >http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > [email protected] mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list _______________________________________________ [email protected] mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
