> I think the better way to fix those help-files is to use an [import] or > [declare] object in the help patch.
one prob I have found ... in a lib such as "rtc" the objects are not compiled externals but abstractions that rely on "list-abs". how to deal with this? you can't really put [import list-abs] or [declare] in an abstraction ... well I guess you can buts that's not the way it should be done. m On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:25 AM, Roman Haefeli <[email protected]> wrote: > On Thu, 2012-02-23 at 13:41 -0800, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: >> A lot of external developers obviously got used to relying on >> >> the libs that were loaded by default in previous versions of Pd extended. >> If their help patches rely on >> >> some of those externals and the dev didn't give a lib prefix, those objects >> won't load under the new system. > > I think the better way to fix those help-files is to use an [import] or > [declare] object in the help patch. This way those help patches may also > work outside the Pd-extended context (for instance, if you use > multi-class externals). > > Roman > > >> >________________________________ >> > From: András Murányi <[email protected]> >> >To: pd-list <[email protected]> >> >Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:01 PM >> >Subject: Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX >> > >> > >> >Huh, afaik there has been no such warning for deprecation ever planted in >> >Pd so there is nothing to conform with. If it gets implemented, it will be >> >something helpful and ugly - for a temporary period of time. Three ways >> >come into my mind: >> >- an "alert box" (modal dialog with the warning and an OK button) that >> >appears when you click the menu item, and of course when you click OK the >> >actual path dialog appears, >> >- a sort of "textual link" somewhere on the path dialog box itself, could >> >look like "Editing paths here is deprecated. See why, and how to edit >> >paths", and it would lead to a certain help page, >> >- putting back the Save button, with no other functionality than displaying >> >the aforementioned alert box. >> > >> >András >> > >> > >> > >> >2012/2/19 Hans-Christoph Steiner <[email protected]> >> > >> > >> >> >> >>Yup, I agree, it should be represented clearly somehow I'm open to >> >>suggestions. Its been a long time policy in Pd-extended to avoid using >> >>the preferences. Its only recently been enforced. >> >> >> >> >> >>.hc >> >> >> >> >> >>On Feb 18, 2012, at 3:26 PM, András Murányi wrote: >> >> >> >>Ugh, I more and more tend to think that this info shall be directly >> >>accessible from the affected dialog window. Many people may think their Pd >> >>is just broken and they might just have no idea what to do about it. >> >>> >> >>>Andras >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 20:59, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[email protected]> >> >>>wrote: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>Setting the paths and the libraries to load at start time via the >> >>>>preferences is deprecated in Pd-extended 0.43. The way to do this is: >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>* for the global path, add your libraries, etc. to the built-in user >> >>>>path: >> >>>>http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>* for a path local to a patch, use the new [path] object, following the >> >>>>interface of [import] with the functionality of [declare -path] >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>If you really want to still set the paths via the preferences, you can >> >>>>edit the preferences file, and Pd-extended will still load them from the >> >>>>preferences file. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>So in your case, Scott, it sounds like you are using a preferences file >> >>>>that has your extra paths in it already. The Preferences interface in >> >>>>Pd-extended 0.43 no longer saves the paths to the file, so it doesn't >> >>>>override your previously saved extra paths. Try renaming or deleting >> >>>>your preferences file. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>.hc >> >>>> >> >>>>On Feb 18, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Scott R. Looney wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>well, just to add my experience i think i can set search paths >> >>>>correctly, but i would like to add that it seems to be quite difficult >> >>>>to have more than one instance of PD-extended 0.43 on the computer >> >>>>(trying mac OS 10.6.4 w/ 32bit and 64bit builds) making it a bit >> >>>>challenging to check one build's operation/stability against another on >> >>>>the same computer. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>for example, the help browser shows all instances of installed objects >> >>>>>on the computer, and then console complains about multiple versions of >> >>>>>files existing. i've tried deleting the extra paths that show up to >> >>>>>limit things, which works temporarily, but on the next startup it just >> >>>>>reverts back to grabbing everything it can find again. it works the >> >>>>>same in every .43 pd-extended build i've tried so far (several version >> >>>>>of both 32 and 64 bit builds in Dec/Jan). putting things on other >> >>>>>drives doesn't work either - it will find those paths as well. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>scott >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Joson Android >> >>>>><[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>>Dear List! >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>i love pd-extended-0.43 !! but i cannot add any search path in the >> >>>>>>prefferences. It will show my new settings right when i make changes >> >>>>>>but wont save anything. It prints "ripts/../extra/mapping: no such >> >>>>>>object" in the pd-window. It works in pd-extended-0.42.5 . Should >> >>>>>>there be a file where pd saves the path? Where is it? >> >>>>>>Also, when i make changes in 0.42.5, 0.43 will know about them on next >> >>>>>>startup. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>I use OSX10.6.7 and the latest autobuild of xi386 version of >> >>>>>>0.43.1-extended. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>Maybe it is the fault of chaotic me and chaotic computer, so i deleted >> >>>>>>all old versions of pd, but that didn't help... >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>Johnny >> >>>>>>_______________________________________________ >> >>>>>>[email protected] mailing list >> >>>>>>UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> >>>>>>http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>_______________________________________________ >> >>>[email protected] mailing list >> >>>UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> >>>http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> >>The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >[email protected] mailing list >> >UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> >http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > >> > >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> [email protected] mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > [email protected] mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- ____________________ m.e.grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. 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