Thanks Hans. I still think it is doable for the Xth Sense lib, this is the current state of the lib according to the guidelines.
OK_ it is cross-platform, I did 7 workshops in 2011 with this tools on different machines. OK_ the lib is in Libdir format OK_ it is already released as a standalone Libdir on github and puredata.info NOT OK_ Two objects do depend on something not included in Pd-extended what could be the best way to solve this issue? OK_ it is listed in the puredata.org libraries page http://puredata.info/downloads/xth-sense-library OK_ I'm happy to do Debian/testing with some guidance Let me know what do you think, if the inclusion is possible, and if I'm missing something. Gonna subscribe to Pd-dev. thanks, M On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[email protected]>wrote: > > On Mar 9, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Marco Donnarumma wrote: > > >> Sadly it's too late to include Xth Sense to Pd-ext, I already ask for >> the inclusion of PdMtl and Mtl Abstraction in the next Pd-ext (0.43). >> >> > ooh :/ > wow, PdMtl is out there since ages... > I always thought why it is not yet included. > > > One showstopper is that it relies on objects that are not included in > Pd-extended (pool, last I checked). But mostly its because there has never > been a proper versioned release. > > > Quoting Hans >> " >> ... >> I think its too late for 0.43, but 0.44 is definitely possible. With >> much less work, we can make it easy for people to find and install >> themselves, and that takes effect once you do it. Only one small thing >> has been added since November, so its in feature freeze. >> >> > I see, fair enough. But why it is such a hassle? > If the library is ready according to the community guidelines, is it still > a pain to include it? > > > People have come to expect quite a bit of consistency with libraries in > Pd-extended, and this consistency is cross-platform. Indeed this is a core > goal of Pd-extended. That means that new libraries need to be checked so > that they are known to work the same across all platforms that Pd-extended > supports. It also means that every object included in Pd-extended will > work with only Pd-extended, no external libraries required. And it means > that every object has its own help patch, and so on, and so forth. > > If you think that getting into Debian/testing is hard, that is easier than > it seems. The library template takes care of that for you, and I'm happy > to sponsor/upload/maintain in Debian any Pd library that is based on the > Library Template. > > > - Having it on github will make that a easier too. You don't need to >> make release tarballs, for example, you can just tag a release in git, >> ie "git tag v0.1", then github makes a link to a downloadable tarball. >> >> > Xth Sense is happily on github already. > > > >> - adding it to the puredata.info/downloads section will make it easy for >> people to find >> >> - and making sure it works fine when you drop it into ~/pd-externals, >> ~/Library/Pd, etc. >> > > did that to facilitate installation process during my workshop. > Will add it to downloads when it will be ready. > > > Tag a release, and github will make a download link for you. Then you can > add that to the downloads page. > > .hc > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to > realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change > them, or perish. -William Carlos Williams > > > -- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com | http://www.thesaddj.com | http://www.flxer.net Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net
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