----- Original Message ----- > From: Jonathan Wilkes <[email protected]> > To: Mathieu Bouchard <[email protected]> > Cc: pd-list List <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 2:13 PM > Subject: Re: [PD] tooltips in pd-extended 0.43 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Mathieu Bouchard <[email protected]> >> To: Jonathan Wilkes <[email protected]> >> Cc: Hans-Christoph Steiner <[email protected]>; pd-list List > <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 1:07 PM >> Subject: Re: [PD] tooltips in pd-extended 0.43 >> >> Le 2012-03-06 à 15:38:00, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit : >> >>> Status bar would be like an extra widget (label I guess) running the > full >> width of the window that is below the canvas, so it won't overlap the > canvas >> but wouldn't leave after the tip goes away. >> >> How do I say that... Make sure that you don't create a situation in > which >> people have to add more extra room in each patch to make space for > something >> that may be transient but might overlap the wrong thing, e.g. the thing >> you're trying to edit or to have tip info about. > > There's no way that would happen either way the current transient window > item > implementation.
Oops, I meant there's no way that would happen with the current implementation. > >> >> Note that currently, patches save the window size, and not the canvas size. > >> Perhaps it is time to move to saving a fudged canvas size, that is meant to > be >> compatible with existing patches but is meant to compensate for a permanent > >> status bar or any other additional structure. > > Well, if anyone decides to use the status bar approach I guess they would > need > to take that into account. > >> >> The transient thing is harder to take into account... it is meant to both > be >> used as a statusbar, and be counted as canvas space ?... > > It is a canvas item on the same canvas as objects, etc. Mine is a window > item, > I'm > not sure if Ivica kept it that way but in both instances it's an item that > exists on the > canvas and gets deleted when the tip goes away. > >> >> I don't know, I think that canvas space is somewhat more touchy to > manage in >> pd than in firefox, and I would think that it's not that much about >> full-width... the full-height seems at least as important... and the fact > that >> pd patches always state their own size, while web pages rarely do... and pd > >> patches more often rely on it... and it's often because they have no > real >> means to do otherwise. > > I have no idea what this means. Try out the tooltips and see how they > interact > with > the canvas. I am in no way resizing the canvas nor the window. > > -Jonathan > >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> | Mathieu BOUCHARD ----- téléphone : +1.514.383.3801 ----- Montréal, QC >> > > _______________________________________________ > [email protected] mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > _______________________________________________ [email protected] mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
