----- Original Message ----- > From: m.e.grimm <[email protected]> > To: Jonathan Wilkes <[email protected]> > Cc: Hans-Christoph Steiner <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 9:28 AM > Subject: Re: [PD] search plugin revision > >> Also, the last time I tried Pd on OSX it had two "Preferences" > menu items > > I remember that one. seems to be gone now.... > >> files, or make it go away entirely, > > might be better (easier?) to use available apple help search? a quick > look i see mo way to get rid of it. there is a "Help Indexer tool" ... > but seems this would be completely different than the plugin...
I don't know why you can't type anything into that box. In Firefox it brings up results about Safari and stuff, so it looks like a global help search. Looks like the Firefox devs just made some shortcuts to point to menu items in the Apple help (or it generated them automatically with that toolkit but doesn't with Tcl/Tk). But I think the correct solution for the plug-in is to name it "Pd Help" or "Pd Help Browser" in the menu, then there is no confusion. -Jonathan > > > m > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:44 PM, Jonathan Wilkes <[email protected]> > wrote: >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <[email protected]> >>> To: m.e.grimm <[email protected]> >>> Cc: Jonathan Wilkes <[email protected]>; > "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 9:27 PM >>> Subject: Re: [PD] search plugin revision >>> >>> >>> That other big blue search thing on Mac OS X is the Apple Help search. > It only >>> searches Apple Help. If anyone can figure out how to either make it > search .pd >>> files, or make it go away entirely, that would be great to have. >> >> Also, the last time I tried Pd on OSX it had two "Preferences" > menu items under the >> main Pd application menu. >> >> -Jonathan >> >>> >>> .hc >>> >>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 7:50 PM, m.e.grimm wrote: >>> >>>> this looks really great! >>>> >>>> hans ... whats up with the other "Search" under > "help". >>> I cant even >>>> type into it let alone search for anything. are we just getting > rid of >>>> that and replacing with jonathons? >>>> >>>> thanks! >>>> m >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Jonathan Wilkes > <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> >>>>>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: Jonathan Wilkes <[email protected]> >>>>>> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 5:47 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [PD] search plugin revision >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Very nice, a big improvement. Its really looking quite > complete. >>> Its getting >>>>>> so good that I finally missed that it doesn't have a > back >>> button like lots >>>>>> of browserly things these days. >>>>> >>>>> There's probably a way to do that if someone wants to > investigate. >>> There's a >>>>> "dump" subcommand for the text widget, but you'd > probably >>> want to cache it >>>>> on disk since results can be pretty big for, say, a search for >>> "float". >>>>> >>>>> Other issues: >>>>> * long searches on OSX. I'm just doing a regex on every > file as >>> one big >>>>> string (which is faster than foreaching each line). Could be > faster >>> with an >>>>> index but then not even half of all docs have keywords or > metadata. >>>>> * users can easily trigger tk error messages because I'm > using >>> their input >>>>> as the regex pattern. Plus, I'm blithely treating the > input as if >>> it were a well >>>>> formed list, and thus I've entered tcl "quoting > hell". >>> The benefit is that I get >>>>> string quoting for free, and I'm quite fine with that vs. > the cost >>> of an error >>>>> with a complex regex pattern. >>>>> * external libraries that don't have a *-meta.pd patch > won't >>> get listed in the >>>>> external libraries list. (Simple fix, though.) >>>>> * Pd's chronic lack of user-friendly documentation is even > more >>> obvious. >>>>> One external library's description is something like > "my bag >>> of tricks"! >>>>> Of course many of the libs are just directories for a > particular >>> developer's >>>>> experimentation, but if you see a description that can be > improved let >>>>> me know and I'll fix it. >>>>> >>>>> -Jonathan >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Its definitely ready to be on the puredata.info/downloads > page, at >>> the very >>>>>> least. >>>>>> >>>>>> One minor thing, it seems that the widget frames and the > background >>> are slightly >>>>>> different shades of grey (see attachment): >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> .hc >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 5:14 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Search plugin revision: >>>>>>> 1) links to tutorials, manual, and other stuff to > guide >>> beginners on the >>>>>> front page >>>>>>> 2) tutorial and libdir filebrowser obsoletes the >>> <ctrl-B> HelpBrowser >>>>>>> 3) folder icon allows to open any directory (or > libdir) in >>> external file >>>>>> browser >>>>>>> 4) Found an object in the search results you've > never seen >>> before? >>>>>> Click the >>>>>>> >>>>>>> info icon to automatically open the readme file from > the >>> libdir author! >>>>>>> 5) search results in alphabetical order, with > internal objects >>> listed first >>>>>>> 6) see a hint in the statusbar for all links >>>>>>> 7) description/author/license/version automatically > listed for >>> every libdir >>>>>> in the libdir format >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Jonathan >>>>>>> >>> > <search-plugin.tcl>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>> [email protected] mailing list >>>>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>>>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> I have the audacity to believe that peoples everywhere can > have >>> three meals a >>>>>> day for their bodies, education and culture for their > minds, and >>> dignity, >>>>>> equality and freedom for their spirits. - Martin > Luther King, >>> Jr. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> [email protected] mailing list >>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ____________________ >>>> m.e.grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. >>>> [email protected] >>>> _________________________________ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> "Free software means you control what your computer does. Non-free > software >>> means someone else controls that, and to some extent controls > you." - >>> Richard M. Stallman >>> > > > > -- > ____________________ > m.e.grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. > [email protected] > _________________________________ > _______________________________________________ [email protected] mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
