Thanks, Jonathan !

Seems, you did a giant work. 

I'll try to set it up on my machine .

best !

serg


Mon, 3 Sep 2012 20:08:16 -0700 (PDT) от Jonathan Wilkes <[email protected]>:
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>Hello serg,
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     I made an attempt to build a search engine awhile back:
>http://puredata.info/Members/jancsika/searchandbrowseplugin/view?searchterm=search%20plugin
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This plugin is designed to be exactly what you are looking for-- I know because 
I had the same problems
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when starting out with Pd and read similarly dreadful responses.
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It is a GUI plugin.  Use the links Iohannes provided to install it.
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The plugin is designed to work with Pd-extended.  (I also back-ported a version 
to use with Pd-l2ork but it
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isn't included there yet.)  It searches for help patches in all the default sys 
and lib
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paths, plus any extra ones you specify in the path dialog (though this dialog 
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in a recent version-- I don't remember).
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Full text search works with all help patches.  Searching by using the keywords 
listed toward the bottom of
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the main search page will only return results for help patches that have 
keyword metadata (i.e., help
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patches which I've revised to be searchable, which is maybe half of everything 
in Pd-extended).
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For me full text searches tend to take a few seconds on my GNU/Linux machine 
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OSX.  (In Windows the first search takes forever but subsequent searches are 
somewhat faster.)  I think
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improving the speed would require building an index and would be a lot more 
work.
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You won't get results for classes that don't have help patches, but then if the 
developer was too lazy to
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document what the object does then I'm sure they used all the time saved to 
make the object work flawlessly... :)
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Speaking of dev laziness-- there are many objects which have nearly empty help 
patches.  If you run into
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this, be sure to try clicking the little "info" icon next to the search 
result.  It will bring up the README.txt file
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for the corresponding library which often will give you a few more clues about 
the object in question.  You can
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also click the folder icon to open an external file browser to see the full 
contents of an external library (like the 
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binaries and and other non-doc files).
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Let me know if there are any keyword categories that would be useful to add to 
the main search page.
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Best,
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Jonathan
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> From: Фывапр Олджэвич <[email protected]>
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>To: João Pais <[email protected]> 
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>Cc: [email protected]; IOhannes m zmoelnig <[email protected]> 
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>Sent: Monday, September 3, 2012 6:16 AM
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>Subject: Re: [PD] finding objects ?
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>Thankyou for your list !
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>\\ I know, although it's never actual.
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>- Why ? I mean that if I don't know all the objects by memory, and I need some 
>function to be done - I need easy search by categorys and so on - with 
>descriptions...  it is much easear, than asking List every time... and also 
>helps to learn other objects faster.
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>\\Also the object completion plugin helps to find 
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>objects (pd-ext 0.43).
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>- what is it ? is it complemented with Extended 0.43 ? or should it be loaded 
>apart ? and does it work for Windows ?
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>cheers !
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>serg
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>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 11:24:09 +0200 от João Pais <[email protected]>:
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>>> On 2012-09-03 00:19, ?????? ???????? wrote:
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>>>> Dear list !
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>>>> Where can I find the most complete PD-objects and commands
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>>>> reference, please ?
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>>> right click on the object.
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>>> select help.
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>>for pd-vanilla, right-click anywhere in an empty space, and select help.
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>>for pd-extended, there isn't one. my list (attached) is the most complete 
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>>I know, although it's never actual. the pd-floss website also has a list, 
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>>>> And why it is not on the main site - puredata.info ?
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>>> because with help-patches that yre on your computer you do not have to
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>>> be online and you can copy&paste interesting stuff.
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>>or rather more because development of pd-extended externals is a bit 
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>>chaotic, some developers don't do proper documentation, there isn't a 
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>>system to control the quality (or existence) of documentation, etc...
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>>Jonathan Wilkes has done lots of work with pddp to update the 
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>>documentation. Pd-Ext 0.43 has much more ressources, including better help 
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>>patches for pd-vanilla. Also the object completion plugin helps to find 
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>>objects (pd-ext 0.43).
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>>João
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