On 02/26/2013 09:07 PM, András Murányi wrote:
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Ivica Bukvic <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
This may be because you didn't hide gop titles, in which case
pd-l2ork resizes gop size to match the text width.
Yes this is indeed the case. I noticed, however, that there was no
title to be displayed, meaning that with "hide GOP title" unchecked,
the rectangle was bigger but there was no title (see attachment).
And it shows the frame when it's embedded in another GOP.
AFAIK embedded GOP objects have always had frames. This is why all
iemguis also have frames/inlets/outlets even when embedded inside GOP. I
think your background made them hard to distinguish. I could be wrong,
though, but I always remember seeing those.
As for the text not being displayed, can you send me the slider
abstraction? It could be that since you've originally saved the
abstraction inside regular pd that it did not get adjusted completely to
conform to pd-l2ork's way of dealing with these. Try manually
readjusting the GOP size and re-save it. It should either prevent you
from resizing it below the text size or do it just fine provided you've
disabled the showing of text. As for text not showing in a subpatcher
even though it should, this is something I should investigate.
Regarding slow redraw, can you try latest version? I fixed one
major inefficiency.
I'll try it as soon as I get to it. I noticed meanwhile that during
the hangup, this error is thrown to the command line a few times:
tcl/tk error: unknown encoding "yahoo"
This likely refers to text encoding if you use something
unusual/setup-specific.
HTH
András
On Feb 26, 2013 6:22 PM, "András Murányi" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Thanks for the reply.
The hangup is literally 5 minutes, CPU is maxed out most of
the time. The undo takes 5 seconds, again literally.
It doesn't occur in pd-extended.
Nested gop subpatches should show their outlines and xlets
(just like number2 or toggle does as well), shouldn’t they?
Well, traditionally they don't and I think they should not.
This would be consistent behavior if the borders of every
element in the outer GOP subpatch would be visible. *However,
I was wrong and actually this is not what's happening.*
Rather, it seems that some GOP subpatches have the wrong size,
and then they also show thru nested GOPs. See the attached
screenshot: at the top left corder of the open subpatch, there
are two GOP subpatches ("Cut" and "Res"; their guts are shown
in the open subpatch window), each wider than they should be.
The big gray rectangle at the bottom of the image is a large
GOP subpatch itself, and the same nested GOP shows thru it. I
couldn't reproduce this symptom from scratch.
András
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 10:37 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
One clarification now that I read your report more
carefully. Mknob makes abstraction movement slower because
this is the old/non-accelerated pd way of moving things.
The new pd-l2ork model falls back on that when at least
one object in the abstraction does not support accelerated
moving. Once I get to fixing the mknob to support
accelerated displace, this will be fixed. I am still
surprised to hear this is taking 5 minutes, though. Is
this an exaggeration or truly 5 minutes?
Also, if you are undoing objects that are non-accelerated
or complex abstractions, you are running into same
problems because you are moving and redrawing
non-accelerated way...
Is the same slowness perceived on regular pd when moving
the said abstraction?
On 02/22/2013 03:34 PM, András Murányi wrote:
So, I've played around with the last git, here are some
things I've noticed:
- miXed/toxy is not in pd-l2ork and it's perfectly alrite
because some kinds of [widget] work while others not.
- [flatgui/popup] is installed by default but it throws
an error when clicked on: Invalid command name
"pdtk_canvas_mouse".
- moving a simple GOP abstraction with a single [mknob]
in it takes like 5 minutes (!) on a 2.4GHz dual core when
the patch is big. It's fast however when the patch is
simple. Undoing the movement is not instant but it is
quick (~5sec).
- nested GOP subpatches show off their outlines and xlets.
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