On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 11:24 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig <[email protected]>wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 2013-06-26 09:56, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote: > > I realised what happened. I've downloaded Pd from Ubuntu software > > center and it installed everything where it's supposed to go. What > > now confuses me a bit is that in the software center you can find > > the following: puredata, puredata-core and puredata-gui. If you go > > for puredata-core it advices you to also download puredata-gui. If > > you go for gui, it advices you to download puredata-core, or even > > puredata... > > yes. > the debian packages are split into multiple packages, so you only have > to install what you need) > - - "puredata-core" is the DSP-engine only (no gui) > - - "puredata-gui" is the GUI only (not DSP,messages,...) > - - "puredata" is a meta-package that depends on both (and more, like > puredata-utils (providing the "pdsend" utility) and "puredata-dev" > needed, if you want to compile your externals) > I've got both puredata-utils and puredata-dev installed.. > > most users will simply want to install "puredata" and get everything. > those that do not want *everything* but most everything, will go and > install "puredata-core" and "puredata-gui". > those that do not need no gui, might be happy with just puredata-core. > > > Well, I've downloaded puredata and it's working (although it > > crashes if I try to open the 'Test audio and midi' patch), > > it should never "crash" (as in: "close the application") > > > and it's located at /usr/bin/ > > yes, since "puredata" is managed by the package manager, it should go > into /usr > > > and the rest are located at /usr/lib/puredata (btw, it's version > > 0..43.0-4, > > yep. this is in order to allow pd-vanilla, pd-extended and pd-l2ork > coexist on the same installation. > > > not the current...), but still no icon, still this warning at the > > Pd > > i guess it is time to ask what you mean by this. > i get a nice icon when selecting "Applications->Multimedia->Pure Data" > Well, I meant when I'm running two applications (say Firefox and Pd) and I change between them, I Alt + Tab (I was mistaken, not Ctl + Tab), and to see which app you're switching to, you get the app's logo. Pd doesn't show a logo there...although it does have a logo on the Launcher...thought that there might be something missing there. > > > window: WARNING: Font family 'Courier' not found, using default > > (DejaVu Sans Mono) > > yes. is his a problem? > Not really, I don't mind the font, just thought of mentioning it. > > and still no makefile (I guess the software center took care of > > it). > > not really (but kind of). > debian (and derivatives like ubuntu) provide packages in binary > (precompiled on some vast build farms) form. these binary packages > (usually) do not come with source code and build system. > the distro guarantees, that you can get the source code is needed (but > that you need not bother with it if you don't). > other distributions like gentoo or arch will ship packages directly as > sourcecode and the packagemanger will compile/install them locally. > > and your "software center" is simply an eye candy front-end to the > systems package manager. > > > > Well, I'm sticking to the makefile cause I'm going through Lyon's > > 'Designing audio objects for max and pd' and he's making use of > > Pd's makefile when compiling an object...so I guess I'll need it, > > right? > > well, yes, but mostly no. > > first of all: you will need *some* makefile (or other build system) to > build your external. > you do **not** need the makefile needed to build Pd - after all, you > want to build an external and not Pd itself, no? > > Pd comes with a wee bit of documentation on how to build externals > (including a...Makefile, named 'makefile'). on debian, this doc is > included in the puredata-doc package (aptly named, as it holds the > documentation for Pd) and you can find it in > /usr/share/puredata/doc/6.externs/ > (copy the entire directory into your home, in order to work on it) > > but then, the Makefile you will find there is not very nice. > there is a *very* nice Makefile for building externals available at [1]. > it is in daily use for building many external libraries out there > (unlike the documentation makefile that comes with pd, which basically > hasn't been touched for 10 years or more) > > > IOhannes, at puredata.info I can only find vanilla 0.44.0 (for > > Linux, there's a version for RPi, is it good for a laptop as > > well?). > > if your laptop has an ARM processor, it probably is. > since the former is unlikely, you will have to get "Pure Data for All > platforms", which contains the source. > > > > Where can I find the 0.44.3 package? > > > apart from that: miller is putting his releases on his personal > webpage [2], and puredata.info is synched whenever someone finds the > time to do it. > > fgmasdr > IOhannes > > > > > > [1] https://svn.code.sf.net/p/pure-data/svn/trunk/externals/template/ > [2] http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAlHKpUEACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvS8YgCgtHDndyMwgavLg8LmwTV7Suma > g/sAoNTtlMU+tRD1pcpPjfORX4t0Uh1M > =UT+b > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > [email protected] mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >
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