On 07/31/2013 11:22 AM, Jamie Bullock wrote:
On 31 Jul 2013, at 16:11, Dan Wilcox <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On Jul 31, 2013, at 6:00 AM, [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
At the very least, I think "Connect" is a bit confusing. It
implies that there can be an unconnected state when the main
purpose of the dialog is managing which things are connected.
Maybe "Apply Settings", "Update Connection Settings", or even
"Update", etc is better.
Ok. I think "Update" or "Update Connection Settings" is probably best.
When would a user want to change a setting but not "apply"? Surely
you want the actual settings in the backend to always reflect the
current state of the preferences dialog and vice versa.
best,
Jamie
I think you misunderstand me. Of course the changes should be
applied, I'm just saying I thought the "Connect" button label was a
little confusing. "Apply" would work as well in this case, but I
think something like "Update Connection Settings" etc is more
verbose, but also more clear.
What I meant by not having an apply button a few posts ago, was that
in most Mac apps you don't have a 2 step process to change settings
aka change then apply. When you change a setting that's it, it's both
changed and updated at the same time. I do agree with Jonathan that,
in this case, it makes sense to have a 2 step process. I was mainly
pointing out I thought the labeling could be more clear.
Actually, I don't think I expressed myself very well as I was arguing
the opposite. I think the settings should take effect immediately and
there shouldn't be an "apply" or "connect" or anything button --- you
just change a setting and that's it --- done!
Hence my question about when you would want to "not apply" the settings.
I can't find any other application on my Mac that has an "apply"
button in the audio prefs dialog, and FWIW, in Integra Live we managed
to create an audio prefs without an apply step, based on Pd using
IOhannes' [mediasettings] externals, so it's definitely possible.
My question: are all current (and imaginable future) audio APIs able to
handle quick changes to the setttings? Say, if a user toggles "Use
Callbacks" three times within 500ms and Pd tries to connect to ALSA each
time, does ALSA handle that gracefully? (Or whatever backend-- I can't
remember if ALSA has that option available atm.)
-Jonathan
best,
Jamie
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