Brian: I comment between lines:

El 09/08/13 09:42, Brian Fay escribió:
Is there a specific type of microphone you will be using? I've seen some videos of Beardyman recently using some type of hands-free lavalier microphone.
I will use my wireless VHF SHURE microphone (I know it is old). The original is a headset, but, for beatbox, I use a SM-58 connected to the same trasnmisor. It sounds different, so, the SM-58 jack has a resistor to turn the gain down and an EQ in PureData, to make it sound like the other.

I don't know if I will use the headset (as Beardyman) or the SM-58. It is about comfort.

This and other condenser microphones require "Phantom Power," which is provided by many audio interfaces and mixers but generally not built in to an internal soundcard.
It doesn't need phantom power.

See how far you can get with what you have; there's no point in buying something that you don't need. But you might find that you do need one eventually.
I will buy the cheap soundcard (ARS $200). I understand what you say, but it has some benefits:

- I care the notebook audio-out jack. USB is more resistent for pluging and unpluging. I (this) summer, I work in a park and I do what this video shows, EVERYNIGHT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNUZULR7k18
- I have more inputs and outputs (for future features).
- Maybe, I avoid noise in the line (for the moment, I don't have it... but I think it depends on the power line of the location).
- Sometimes, I do record some samples... it will be usefull for that.

Keep in mind that you'll need very low latency (less than 20 miliseconds) for your application. I'm not sure if this is affected by the sound card or not. All of the audio processing happens on the CPU, but maybe the buffering stages for the sound card add enough delay to add latency... could somebody with more familiarity chime in here?
For now, I have 5.8ms of latency. It's very good for me. If you are saying that an external soundcard would add latency... more than the internal, so, it is not good!

Thanks.



On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Mario Mey <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    El 08/08/13 17:50, Charles Z Henry escribió:
    Hi Mario

    The number one reason for having an external sound card is noise
    isolation.  The card's proximity to the power supply and
    motherboard are bad for EM noise.  Also, a computer power supply
    and a good audio power supply for recording have much the same
    relationship--there's more noise in switching electronics.

    Next, there's the size constraints.  You'd have a hard time
    adding all the connectors for a large number of channels on a
    card which plugs in to your PCI(e) slots.
    It's ok, I have a notebook: 1 plug out, 1 plug in.


    Third:  there's not as great a need for bandwidth for audio as
    there is with video. Video cards need all that PCI(e) bandwidth.
    Audio doesn't.  It's a relatively small amount of data.  Of
    course--I think USB and firewire really don't have enough
    bandwidth for good scalability, but that's another discussion.

    But... what are you doing with it?  You have different
    requirements for recording and for live sound.  Live sound:  just
    do it up.  No one will likely notice.
    Live sound is my purpose. Mic-in looping-station and multieffects
    system (following the steps of Beardyman and his Beardytron_5000).
    But, sorry about not understanding your expresion (english is not
    my native language).... What do you mean with "just do it up, no
    one will likely notice"? Should I buy it or no one will notice the
    difference? I think you mean I should...


    If you're planning on recording something on just 2 channels on
    the built-in sound card, keep in mind that your dynamic range
    will be pretty bad, even if you get a good pre-amp in the middle
    to take the most advantage of your range.  You'd much rather have
    an external sound card with some adjustable analog pre-amps in
    the box.
    About the soundcard I post, the Encore 7.1 ENMAB-8CM
    (http://www.encore-usa.com/ar/support/ENMAB-8CM)... it's really a
    china generic useless card... or it's good for starting? It has no
    analog pot.

    Chuck


    Thanks so much for your time.





    On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Mario Mey <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        I'm using my integrated soundcard:

        00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI
        SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40).

        I know that Pd is processing on CPU and I don't need more
        than 2 inputs and 2 outputs channels. So... I "think" that
        there's no need to buy an external one.

        Is there any benefit of using one?

        I know that this USB soundcard is not a very good one... but
        maybe it's good for my economy. What's your opinion?

        http://www.encore-usa.com/ar/support/ENMAB-8CM

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