On 10/21/2013 03:59 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > On 10/21/2013 02:12 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> Carbon has been deprecated by Apple and might have been removed entirely. It >> will only ever be 32-bit, and starting in 10.7, everything is 64-bit. >> Anything Carbon is dead, unless you're happy working with 10.6 and older. > > I'm running Pd-extended and my Pd-l2ork port on 10.7.5. Both link > to the Carbon system libraries. Both run.
Considering that Apple has dropped support even for some older 64-bit Macs, I think using Carbon is surely a dead end. http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/07/confirmed-mountain-lion-sends-some-64-bit-macs-gently-into-that-good-night/ .hc > An update to the Pd-l2ork port: > * figured out how to build tkpath against the Carbon stuff. It runs fine now. > * got some basic libraries compiled and installed to ship with the app. > (zexy, hcs, cyclone, and a few others). > * currently working on an issue with the Shift key "sticking"-- that is, if I > do <Shift-RightArrow> to move an object by 10 pixels, when I release > Shift and then do <RightArrow> it continues moving the object by > 10 pixels instead of 1 pixel. Once I fix that it should be usable. > > Best, > Jonathan > >> >> .hc >> >> On 10/09/2013 10:45 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: >>> Update-- I've got a working Pd-l2ork, tkpath based App running on >>> OSX. (No ppc support, unfortunately.) Audio is running. >>> >>> Minefields: >>> * I cannot for the life of me figure out how to build tkpath using the >>> Tcl/tk Frameworks (Carbon-based) inside Pd-l2ork.app instead of the >>> system ones. (Tried both Xcode and command line tools). Anybody >>> have hints for that? >>> * I can't figure out how to build the externals in "extra". If I do >>> "make" the linker doesn't find any of the m_pd.h functions, even if >>> I do the ugly hack of copying m_pd.h to the directory. >>> * I'm abusing my function for returning the executable path in order >>> to get Pd to look for doc/ and extra/ inside the App (in addition to >>> the usual places on the system). Is there a trick to this? >>> * key presses/releases sometimes get stuck in one state or the other. >>> I think there's some simple tcl/tk hack for ignoring autokeys that may >>> remedy this, but I'm not sure yet. >>> >>> Best, >>> Jonathan >>> >>> On 10/07/2013 04:05 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> I'm hoping some MacOSX gurus can help me traverse this mine-field. >>>> >>>> What I'm trying to do: >>>> Port Pd-l2ork (quick-and-dirty) to MacOSX in the form of a Pd-l2ork.app >>>> >>>> Minefields: >>>> * Pd-l2ork uses tkpath, which is built to work with Carbon and not Cocoa. >>>> So I >>>> must use tcl/tk Framework that uses Carbon instead of Cocoa. That should >>>> be >>>> ok because Pd-extended.app is currently set up to use Carbon. >>>> * Pd-l2ork uses the old pd.tk framework instead of the newer stuff from the >>>> gui-rewrite >>>> >>>> What I've done so far: >>>> * updated the configure file successfully >>>> * made a workaround for statbuf from stat.h not existing on OSX (in >>>> s_main.c) >>>> * made a workaround for RTLD not existing after ./configure and trying to >>>> make (s_loader.c) >>>> * successfully compiled Pd-l2ork >>>> * checked that tkpath actually works on OSX. It seems to work, using >>>> tcl/tk >>>> w/Carbon >>>> instead of Cocoa. >>>> * used otool and install_name_tool to change libPdTcl.dylib libraries to >>>> point at the >>>> App's Framework directory instead of system directories >>>> * changed AppMain.tcl to launch pd.tk instead of pd-gui (which it does >>>> successfully) >>>> >>>> What crashes so far: >>>> * inside pd.tk, I'm trying to do this: >>>> load $pd_guidir/bin/libPdTcl.dylib >>>> It finds the dylib fine but then it crashes, with the crash report >>>> referencing the first line >>>> of the following function of t_tkcmd.c in the backtrace: >>>> >>>> int Pdtcl_Init(Tcl_Interp *interp) >>>> { >>>> const char *argv = Tcl_GetVar(interp, "argv", 0); >>>> >>>> *** >>>> >>>> Any ideas where to begin to debug this? Is there some code I can add to >>>> Pdtcl_Init to print out some info I can use to tell where it's going wrong? >>>> >>>> I put the full error log here: >>>> http://pastebin.com/duHdRrsY >>>> >>>> Any suggestions appreciated. >>>> >>>> -Jonathan >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list _______________________________________________ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list