I have to fully agree with Iohannes. I have a huge patch that works perfectly the same with and without GEM running as a second patch.
However, recently I had to change the hardware and I'm having problems now. This is neither a problem with GEM nor with the patch. It's a hardware driver problem. The proprietary ATI drivers were not working with this mainboard so I used the Ubuntu drivers which are no good - and I get drop outs much earlier than before. The more complex the patch gets the more important it is to have a perfectly working system and hardware. There is nothing you can fix in GEM if you have bad drivers or a badly designed patch. There are already a number of ways to set priorities in the system e.g. by setting up a low latency or realtime system with the best options, the Pd startup flags as well as patch design. Ingo ________________________________________ Von: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Luiz Naveda Gesendet: Samstag, 28. Dezember 2013 22:34 An: IOhannes m zmölnig Cc: [email protected] Betreff: Re: [PD] GEM causes soung glitches Iohannes, I am very sad to listen these words from you. I am just trying to point to a problem that I feel is important: making sound and work with gem causes glitches in several scenarios. It is a main problem for me and for some people I know. I accept that you think I am not a professional as you are and I also accept that I have all sort of design problems. No problem. But we have a problem here. I am just trying to wave the priority. I cant help solving the problem directly. My programming skills are not so good. But if you want I can do other tasks, try to raise money, I dont know. How do I start? I would like to ask you, in a very kind way and very friendly. Try not to reply posts like that suggesting that I am not professional or etc. It makes people afraid of contributing. Please, call me anything but let people express their opinions without being hit by emails like that. I am saying this waiving a white flag :-) Pleaaaase! All the best Luiz On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 8:49 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig <[email protected]> wrote: On 2013-12-28 02:56, Luiz Naveda wrote: > This workaround doesn't solve the problem. When you have to deal with > messages, debugs and all sort of problems in the communication of instances > it just start the wave of problems. most likely, you have a serious design problem. For newbies working with simple patches > it is a frustration. For people working professionally in complex patches > it is a hell. then you do you have a serious design problem. > > I think it is a annoying, important and bizarre problem for a software > aimed at multimedia computing. The last time I had to deal with this > rarely documented problem made me consider switch to other platforms. I > wish someone could make it a high priority request for the PD developers. > the fact that it is a "rarely documented problem" makes me think that the priority need not be as high as you suggest. in the meantime, raise the audio buffer of Pd. (and get yourself a decent gfx card with some proprietary (shudder) drivers). having said that, there is certainly loads of things to improve. since you seem to be "working professionally in complex" scenarios, i would like to invite you to help solving the problem (in a way that doesn't break everything platform X) fgmdsr IOhannes _______________________________________________ [email protected] mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Luiz Naveda _____________________________________________________ - PhD researcher http://www.ipem.ugent.be/samba - Director SysMus09 http://www.ipem.ugent.be/sysmus09 IPEM - Institute for Psychoacoustics and Electronic Music Ghent University Office: + 32 9 264 4127 Blandijnberg 2 Ghent, B-9000 Belgium ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^^~^~~~~ ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^~~~ _______________________________________________ [email protected] mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
