I can see how a filter circuit following a DAC can swing more than the
DAC for example if two successive samples are full-scale, but there's no
way a DAC can output beyond its own full scale except momentarily while
it's settling to a value inside its range.
The scaling has to be done before the DAC.
You just can't reconstruct a clipped signal unless the clipping is very
mild or the signal is very simple, like a sine wave. What if the signal
is +12dBFS white noise?
I meant that if you take 16 bits to be full-scale but you have a 24-bit
DAC you _could_ use the 16 LSBs of the DAC as full scale, then you have
a lot of headroom but your signal to noise ratio is not as good, and
maybe something like this is happening in the default MacOS headphone
driver.
Martin
On 2014-01-01 13:50, Chris Clepper wrote:
Nope, the DAC can freely construct intersample peaks as it sees fit and
those can easily exceed 0 dBFS. It has been common practice in the
industry for more than a decade to reconstruct clipped samples well
above 0 dBFS - partially to make up for shitty mixing and mastering
prevalent in music, and also because it's the right way to do it.
16 bits full scale and 24 bits full scale are the same 0dBFS signal.
The bits are added at the bottom not the top.
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Martin Peach <martin.pe...@sympatico.ca
<mailto:martin.pe...@sympatico.ca>> wrote:
On 2013-12-31 19:32, Chris Clepper wrote:
It's very, very easy to avoid any sort of clipping processing by
using
hardware with drivers that don't have any! Avid, Apogee, MOTU,
RME, and
many others have bit transparent OSX CoreAudio drivers.
Also, any DAC worth it's using can reconstruct far beyond 0dBFS
without
distortion, so hearing volume increase past -1..1 in software is not
surprising. I recall the ADI 1955 and equivalent TI part
putting out
+12dBFS or something ridiculous, but those ain't Wolfson low power
headphone codecs neither!
A DAC can only go to 0dBFS by definition. If it appears to go beyond
that then something is scaling the input to be less than full scale
at "full scale".
For instance a 24-bit DAC could be sent 16 16-bit full-scale streams
and not clip. Only if 16-bits is considered "full scale" does that
make it +12dBFS.
Martin
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