It does not have led but the arturia mini lab is working well for me and it has 
overlays for knob names that I like and it's 99$ and also works with iPad very 
well

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> On Jan 9, 2014, at 12:24 PM, "i go bananas" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Have been looking round for a midi (preferably USB) controller for pd. 
> 
> here's what i have decided i need:
> 
> * endless rotary knobs with LED displays
> * LCD display above each knob
> 
> 
> I've messed around with midi and usb controllers for years, and basically, if 
> there is nothing written on the knob, i'm not smart enough to remember what 
> that knob is meant to do.  So the LCD display is a must.  Also, i like to 
> rapid-fire preset changes, so endless rotary knobs with LED displays is also 
> a must.
> 
> 
> pretty much, the mackie c4 looks ideal, except for a couple of things that 
> worry me: 
> (1) no usb 
> (2) not sure how well it integrates into pd in realtime (ie, can i update the 
> LCD displays, knob position LEDS, etc???) 
> (3) i read that the knobs take 5 full turns to send 0-127 midi cc.  that sux. 
>  
> 
> 
> another one i'm looking at is the novation remote zero, which seems kinda 
> cool too, but all i really need is the endless rotary knobs and LCD display, 
> so there's a lot of stuff there i don't need.
> 
> is there something i might have overlooked?
> 
> i tried lemur and all that too, but i just can't get into the touch screen 
> thing, either.  i need real knobs. 
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