Hello, I'm opening a new thread about the new direction of discussion with a proper subject title. Perhaps this will call the attention of other readers.
I particularly think this is of major interest to everyone. We're discussing new ways of using the libraries in Pd Extended into Pd Vanilla, and even a way to bring some of the Pd-extended UI changes into vanilla. Something Miller brought up in the thread was "*Just FYI…. Joe Deken of newblankets.org <http://newblankets.org/> is considering making a repository of external objects compatible with Pd vanilla. I think almost all the* *objects in Pd extended will work with vanilla (and if I find out what specific changes vanilla would need to allow the others, I'd be happy to try to provide them). It seems like maintaining compiled versions of the **libs is an easier thing to do than maintaining all of Pd Extended*." So, anyone else care to share their two cents? cheers 2014-12-17 1:05 GMT-02:00 Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list <[email protected]> : > > Well, you can peruse the tracker's open patches to get a sense of whether > you can (or if it's worth your time to try). Keep in mind the Pd-l2ork gui > prefs code started out as a patch specifically written as a clean, small > patch to get into Vanilla/Extended. > > -Jonathan > > > On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 6:04 PM, Dan Wilcox <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Sorry, I didn;t mean to sound like I'm griping. The nature of the question > was more "if we apply clean, small patches to vanilla, could we get some of > Han's updates in so they aren't lost to non Pd-l2ork users". I'm in the > middle of writing my thesis right now, but getting into real Pd development > again is on my list when I'm finally done with it. > > On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Jonathan Wilkes <[email protected]> > wrote: > > On 12/16/2014 03:12 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote: > > I like how I explicitly asked to not hear that "Pd-l2ork has that" and > yet that's the response I got. I already knew this anyway from the sample > screenshots you were posting when you were implementing it. (Looks great > BTW) > > > Yeah, I know, it was 100% willful snark on my part. It's kind of like you > were asking, "Is there a way to do X, while satisfying my irrational desire > to ignore a working solution by someone who likely already did X?" > > Anyway, did you look at the code? It's done in tcl/tk, and it does not > depend on tkpath. So if you don't want to duplicate all the work I already > did, you can fairly easily port that back to Pd Vanilla. There might be a > few API differences in accessing the audio backend, but there are small and > I don't mind helping make those changes. > > Also, I specifically did everything in tcl/tk so that the patch would be > as simple as possible. It shouldn't even require a recompile. Now, I > haven't looked at Ivica's changes that added persistence. But all versions > of Pd have the same prefs-saving code so that shouldn't be difficult, > either. > > > Also, if you didn't know, why respond? :P > > > Because the answer to your question ultimately depends on whether what you > come up with fits the unspoken yet stringent HIG standards imposed by > Miller's Pd. > > But that doesn't mean that code which does _exactly_ what you're asking > about isn't relevant to your question. > > -Jonathan > > > On 12/15/2014 06:21 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote: > > If that does become a real scenario, I hope we can find a way to bring > some of the Pd-extended UI changes into vanilla, such as the pixel perfect > sizing across platforms, an option for the extended coloring (graytones) > etc. Before anyone says “Pd-Lork has that”, I’m just wondering if it’s > feasible to bring in some of the work Hans did after the gui cleanup which > is already in vanilla. > > > In answer to your question: I don't know. > > Having answered that... > > Pd-l2ork has gui theme presets for Vanilla, Inverted Vanilla, Pd-extended, > Commodore 64, Strongbad's Compy, and a few others. There's also an > interface to make a custom theme-- I didn't make it persistent but I think > Ivica added that ability. > > -Jonathan > > > -- > Dan Wilcox > danomatika.com > robotcowboy.com > > > > > -- > Dan Wilcox > danomatika.com > robotcowboy.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > [email protected] mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > >
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