> But I was shocked to learn you can't do any sub-block "subpatch" in SC > without having to run the whole beast globally into a block of "1" sample (it > probably won't allow it ever). I was even more shocked by the fact you can't (locally) upsample in SC, like you can in Pd with [block~]. But otherwise SC is great :-).
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Februar 2016 um 05:39 Uhr Von: "Alexandre Torres Porres" <[email protected]> An: "Samuel Burt" <[email protected]> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Betreff: Re: [PD] How's Max MSP limited? was Re: How's Pd limited? som objects that you'd bet they'd have, but they don't (maybe externals). I could stop one day and list them all (I'm actually working on a table comparing objects in Pd x Max & SC). I know pd vanilla lacks too much of anything, but if you're using extended, well, there's just a lot in it that max doesn't have. Actually, even some vanilla features (like the lack of a method to generate a table made of a sum of sines). we were also talking about something like [vline~] in Pd vanilla, which is powerful for sample accurate triggering, but Max doesn't have it. Oh, pd has no control rate limitation at all, it's what allows vline~ to achieve sub sample accuracy by the way. But Max's control rate is 2ms by default and goes only down to 1ms... I also miss our dear friend [bang~] in max, the workaround to that is too ugly. well, what other limitations? It doesn't run on linux or single board computers under 10$ like raspberry pi 0 - libpd also takes Pd to weird places, I foresse the day you might be able to run a pd patch in a toaster Anyway, everything will have it's limitations. I bet there are tons of things you can do in SC that you can't do in Max or Pd. But I was shocked to learn you can't do any sub-block "subpatch" in SC without having to run the whole beast globally into a block of "1" sample (it probably won't allow it ever). that's why I believe so much in investing on a project like cyclone - I just miss some of those objects, and if I could just steal them - great! I also fantasize about cloning and stealing SC's very nice set of objects and bring them to Pd. cheers 2016-02-25 0:20 GMT-03:00 Samuel Burt <[email protected]>: Alexandre, Since I haven't used Max in a very long time, maybe you can explain. What are the surprising limitations you've discovered with Max MSP? Sam ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 23:19:53 -0300 From: Alexandre Torres Porres <[email protected][[email protected]]> To: peiman khosravi <[email protected][[email protected]]> Cc: cyrille henry <[email protected][[email protected]]>, Pd-List <[email protected][[email protected]]> Subject: Re: [PD] How's Pd limited? Message-ID: <caeasfmgwznn+slsfwcf6nv+o761mgvmgzuhmvnfkqxqfcjk...@mail.gmail.com[caeasfmgwznn%2bslsfwcf6nv%[email protected]]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" i think there's noyhing in gen that you cant do in pd, it has a small set of objects, but i guess the deal is that it, somehow, makes it more efficient, that's all. i've started studying max/msp recently, and i've found many things lacking in it, more than i would've thought, by the way. cheers ************_______________________________________________ [email protected] mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list[http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list] _______________________________________________ [email protected] mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
