thanks for your explanations! now I realize that it's a actually Tcl problem.
> well, it's pretty easy to create this characters: [makefilename %c] to > the rescue. I already managed to create those characters as symbols with [list tosymbol]. as long as they don't make their way to the GUI, everything is fine :-). making JSON strings by appending lists and symbols is actually not that much of a hassle. btw, maybe it's time to document all of the relevant format strings for [makefilename]. just in case Miller is reading this ;-). > Gesendet: Dienstag, 26. Juli 2016 um 16:17 Uhr > Von: "IOhannes m zmoelnig" <[email protected]> > An: "Christof Ressi" <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Betreff: Re: [PD] unable to type certain characters > > On 2016-07-26 15:50, Christof Ressi wrote: > >> though of course this is not the real reason why these keys are forbidden. > > > > so what is the real reason? > > > > > > to me it feels weird that these three characters (which are omnipresent in > > most languages) > > this is the reason why they are forbidden: these characters have a > special meaning in tcl/tk and rather than properly escaping them (and > going through hell) they are just forbidden (which saves the devs a lot > of hassle). > > > should be totally forbidden in Pd. right now it seems like I can't build > > things like regular expressions, java script code or JSON data in a way > > which isn't totally akward and defeats the purpose of human-readable > > formats. > > well, those use-cases should be catered for easily enough: just use some > other characters instead of the forbidden ones, and replace them before > doing the actual processing. > e.g. "{" -> "<<" and "}" -> ">>" > and then run the following json string through > `sed -e 's|<<|{|g' -e '|>>|}|g'`: > ["foo", <<"bar": ["baz", null, 1.0, 2]>>] > > (only to discover that while you can type semicolons in Pd, they are > treated somewhat special...) > > > > > after some more trying I discovered that I can actually safely type '{' and > > '}' within a [text] window, although I still get the 'keycode dropped' > > error in the console. > > that's because the [text] window lacks character checker. it probably > should be there as well. > > > > > some questions: > > > > why can I type curly braces in [text] but not in a message box? > > see above. > > > why can I escape a semicolon in [text] but not in a message box? > > because you really cannot. > (at least not in a way that is much more meaningful than the "keycode > dropped" on the patch level) > > > > > even if there should be a serious technical reason for why a user shall not > > be able to type these characters in a message box, would it at least be > > possible to create them dynamically, e.g. with a message similar to > > 'addsemi', 'addcomma' or 'adddollar'? > > well, it's pretty easy to create this characters: [makefilename %c] to > the rescue. > > fgasdmr > IOhannes > > _______________________________________________ [email protected] mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
