...meant of course [midiin].

> Gesendet: Sonntag, 31. Juli 2016 um 23:29 Uhr
> Von: "Christof Ressi" <[email protected]>
> An: "Alexandre Torres Porres" <[email protected]>
> Cc: Pd-List <[email protected]>
> Betreff: Re: [PD] current status of [midiout]
>
> [midiin] is supposed to output all kinds of midi messages. also, the object 
> [sysexin] is actually derived from [midiout].
>  
> 
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 31. Juli 2016 um 22:04 Uhr
> Von: "Alexandre Torres Porres" <[email protected]>
> An: "Christof Ressi" <[email protected]>
> Cc: Pd-List <[email protected]>
> Betreff: Re: [PD] current status of [midiout]
> 
> another question, does [midiin] receive sysex messages?
>  
> cheers
>  
> 2016-07-29 6:53 GMT-03:00 Christof Ressi <[email protected]>:I think 
> there seems to be a misunderstanding. I never advocated to rename [midiout] 
> to [sysexout] - on the contrary!
> I used an old post by Martin to show that in the past [midiout] used to be 
> broken on some systems or behave differently. For example, Martin apparantly 
> could only send sysex, but no channel messages.
> 
> For me on Win7 [midiout] works fine in a way that I can send *all* kind of 
> valid MIDI messages. I just wanted to make sure that this is now the case for 
> all major systems.
> 
> regarding a list method for [midiout]: since all popular objects for 
> streaming bytes [netsend -b], [udpsend], [comport], etc. accept lists, it is 
> somewhat counterintuitive that this is not the case for [midiout]. if you 
> want to keep this kind of special behaviour, it would be cool to make it 
> clear in the help patch - to prevent future users from tearing their hair out 
> :-)
> 
> Christof
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 29. Juli 2016 um 02:11 Uhr
> > Von: "Miller Puckette" <[email protected][[email protected]]>
> > An: "Christof Ressi" <[email protected][[email protected]]>
> > Cc: Pd-List <[email protected][[email protected]]>
> > Betreff: Re: [PD] current status of [midiout]
> 
> >
> > My plan is simply never to make any incompatible change if I can help it -
> > so midiout is there for good.
> >
> > I don't see the need for any 'sysexout' object - 'midiout' does sysex and/or
> > whatever else you want to throw at it.  On linux you can even use it to
> > output incorrectly formed MIDI if you want - for instance to stress-test
> > MIDI input devices.
> >
> > cheers
> > Miller
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 03:11:47PM +0200, Christof Ressi wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > what's the current status of the [midiout] object? there have been 
> > > warnings in the past and the help patch doesn't say much about it.
> > > for example i found this old thread in the list archives:
> > >
> > > https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2010-02/076074.html[https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2010-02/076074.html]
> > >
> > > here Martin says:
> > >
> > > >> Shouldn't [midiout] be renamed to [sysexout]? It only does sysex, you 
> > > >> can't send any other kind of MIDI message with [midiout].
> > >
> > > I'm on Win7 and [midiout] works like a charm. I can send both channel and 
> > > system messages (though I have only tried system common and system 
> > > realtime so far, still have to test sysex). I can easily play MIDI files 
> > > with [mrpeach/midifile] -> [drip] -> [midiout] on my old Roland D110 :-).
> > >
> > > my question is: have all those supposed issues with [midiout] been fixed? 
> > > does it work the same way on all systems? are there any pitfalls I have 
> > > to consider beforehand?
> > >
> > > @Miller: would you mind adding a note to the helpfile that [midiout] only 
> > > accepts single characters as floats but no lists? it took me some time to 
> > > figure that out... or even better: adding a list method? ;-)
> > >
> > > Christof
> > >
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