>but the main question in our reorganising is that if keeping cyclist out of 
>the build system along maxmode (as it is the case with the current canonical 
>0.2beta1 versions for linux and mac) a good idea as we think it is.


I agree on keeping it out cuz now I don't need to open old Max patches and also 
didn't in the past. But if its not very time consuming it is a cool thing to 
have around. IMO this kool thing can wait.



Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.


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From: Pd-list <pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at> on behalf of Alexandre Torres 
Porres <por...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 12:44 AM
To: Matt Barber
Cc: PD-List
Subject: Re: [PD] cyclist

Well, for those who don't know, cyclist converts binary max files to text so 
they could be opened in Pd.

It was part of cyclone up to alpha56 (included in the last extended 0.43-4) but 
removed along with maxmode library in cyclone alpha57 and 0.2beta1. Other 
things removed then as build targets are the hammer and sickle libraries, as 
well as the cyclone library - which included non alphanumeric objects that 
would also be lost, but were then included into a new library called "nettles".

Now, cyclist works well with the maxmode library, which, as I mentioned, has 
been discarded.

But I see now that cyclone 02.beta3, available only for windows, has cyclist 
back on, though maxmode is still out of the game. Not sure why and how good 
it'd be to have it without maxmode, and I also find confusing that there are 
conflicting versions up in deken (beta1 for mac/linux and beta3 for windows).

Sometime ago it was discussed on this list wether maxmode was being used at all 
before removing it from cyclone. I had the idea that this was relevant over a 
decade ago, but that today was probably best forgotten for many issues 
regarding compatibility between max and pd files... so I voted for its death.

Me, Matt and Derek are working on the cyclone code and still feel that way 
about maxmode, but also about cyclist. We plan to leave it in the code base but 
not as build targets, just as "old and not used anymore legacy code from 
cyclone" in a maintenance folder.

But we're restoring the cyclone library name to keep the non alphanumeric 
objects there as it used to be until alpha56, or in the latest Pd-Extended 
distributions still in use out there.

but the main question in our reorganising is that if keeping cyclist out of the 
build system along maxmode (as it is the case with the current canonical 
0.2beta1 versions for linux and mac) a good idea as we think it is.

Thanks




2016-10-16 9:43 GMT-02:00 Alexandre Torres Porres 
<por...@gmail.com<mailto:por...@gmail.com>>:
Perhaps the question is, did anyone ever used cyclist? Tell us about that 
experience.


2016-10-14 1:41 GMT-03:00 Matt Barber 
<brbrof...@gmail.com<mailto:brbrof...@gmail.com>>:
Hi list:

Does anyone really use cyclist?

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