thank you all very much for these infos, its a great help on how to proceed !
tks
jma

> Le 10 janv. 2017 à 19:14, Alexandre Torres Porres <[email protected]> a écrit :
> 
> cyclone 0.3 also has alphanumeric versions of the objects found in the 
> cyclone library (e.g. notequals~ instead of !=~), so you can use them even if 
> you do not load the library. And you can also just load the library with 
> [declare]
> 
> cheers
> 
> 2017-01-10 14:49 GMT-02:00 Alexandre Torres Porres <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>>:
> you just need it in the path
> 
> now it depends on which cyclone you downloaded from "deken"
> 
> v0-extended is actually "0.1.alpha-56" and it does contain a "hidden" (more 
> like "misplaced") cyclone library in the "maxmode" folder. This library loads 
> 12 non alphanumeric objects that you don't find as single binaries along with 
> every other cyclone object. So you can use that in both ways, as a library or 
> a set of compiled externals.
> 
> If you are trying to bring all extended libraries into Pd you may have chosen 
> this one. But I advise not to use this one as it's arguably the worst cyclone 
> distribution out there. For the most part, Extended did provide 
> "0.1.alpha55", the alpha56 came in the last Pd Extended (0.43) but it breaks 
> many spectral processing patches because of a bug in cartopol~/poltocar~
> 
> You're much better off with the other option you find in deken, which is 
> cyclone "0.2beta", it's an update in respect to the other version and fixes 
> that and other issues. But for this release, the "cyclone library" along with 
> other libraries that used to come in cyclone (maxmode, sickle, hammer) were 
> discarded. It now carries a new library called "nettles" that loads the 12 
> non alphanumeric objects that you don't find as single binaries.
> 
> Me, Derek and Matt have been working on an update for cyclone (version 0.3). 
> I thought it was best to revert back and restore the cyclone library instead 
> of a newly named library. It only contains the so called 12 non alphanumeric 
> objects as well but we might use it for other features. This oughta keep it 
> backwards compatible to the legacy cyclone ("0.1.alpha-56" and earlier). Our 
> work is still highly experimental, in a "pre alpha" phase, but I hope we can 
> move on to an alpha phase next month. You wont find it in deken, but you may 
> find some pre alpha releases here 
> https://github.com/porres/pd-cyclone/releases 
> <https://github.com/porres/pd-cyclone/releases> - more info about the project 
> is found in that github repo.
> 
> here's a print of my install of cyclone 0.3, I just put the path into Pd's 
> path and the "cyclone library" in the startup
> 
> cheers
> 
> 2017-01-09 18:59 GMT-02:00 Miller Puckette <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>>:
> I'm guessing - but I believe to get cyclone you have to add the appropriate
> shared library to "startup" in Pd's preferences - and perhps it's the same
> for maxlib.
> 
> The other packages are implemented as separate files for each object, so that
> they auto-load.
> 
> cheers
> Miller
> 
> On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 05:38:11PM +0100, [email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hello
> > This is a attempt to migrate from pd-extended to more updated versions for 
> > everyday use  :
> > means im trying to make my own libraries (for the first time in 15 years)
> >
> > I've discovered the ‘Find Externals’ lever in the main menu, and it works 
> > for zexy, iemmatrix (so far) but i could not make it work for cyclone or 
> > maxlib
> >
> > means (cyclone) and (maxlib) folders are downloaded to /Library/Pd/, just 
> > as iemmatfrix or zexy but when launching pd it says "can’t load library"
> > in all cases i do download the (Darwin-x86_64-32)(sources)-externals.
> >
> > Anything to ‘make’ ?
> >
> > Sorry to post this obvious question, looked for a while hints on internet 
> > and archives without success
> > tks
> > JmA
> >
> >
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