> Hi

> questions:
> I still find it confusing the dual name purr data / pd-l2ork, is this final? 
> Do you plan to stick to one name only?
The command name is still "pd-l2ork" and it would be burdensome to change 
that.  I like the cat with the eyepatch as an icon, and while I'm not 
necessarily 
tied to calling it "Purr Data" that is the name of the repo and the name shown 
in 
the application now.  

> Moreover, is the pd-l2ork project finally and officially merged to purr data? 
> Or 
does it still have a separate repository and development branch?
There's a separate repo for pd-l2ork 1.0-- that's the one that uses 
tcl/tk/tkpath 
for the GUI.  That codebase has been officially merged with pd-l2ork 2.0 (which 
is what I call "Purr Data").  Official in the sense that we've gone through and 
tried 
to make sure that we ported all changes to pd-l2ork 1.0 during the time 
pd-l2ork 2.0 was being created.

> And why not include the installers and dedicate a page to it in 
> <http://puredata.info/> ?
That would be great.  However, I'm still working on streamlining the release 
process.  So the location of the binaries might change in the future.

-Jonathan
cheers
2017-03-11 18:07 GMT-03:00 Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list <[email protected]>:

Also, there's a "legacy" flag that can be used to get the old behavior on the 
stuff we've 
fixed like [bendin]
-Jonathan


> hey Jonathan - i would love to work with this for my purposes, but currently 
> i have to be limited to objects for vanilla. is there a way at all to do 
> this, since your original goal was to make l2Ork's new features accessible to 
> all platforms? ideally i'd just like a superior vanilla PD editing 
> environment with undo capability, but not have access to the advanced 
> objects, or just be able to delete anything not integral to the editing 
> process so i don't accidentally use it. any of this possible or are some 
> objects fundamentally changed in your environment so much that cross 
> compatibility is not possible?
> best,> scott
Hi scott,If you need to know which objects, arguments and methods don't exist 
in Pd Vanilla, Purr Data has 
a set of introspection tools that can help you do this.
[pdinfo] has a "classlist" method that returns all the class names of 
everything that made it successfully 
through class_new[classinfo] lets you get all the creator names for the pd's 
"objectmaker" class.  This should be a complete 
list of all names that you can type into an object box to create an object 
(plus a few more which you 
cannot manually create).
[classinfo] lets you get method/creator signatures for each object.  (Of course 
A_GIMME leaves 
some room for ambiguity, though.)
Using these objects it should be possible to create a rought picture of Purr 
Data's "core interface".  If 
you can figure out a way to get similar info from a particular version Pd 
Vanilla, then you should be 
able to use the two sets of data to automatically query any version of Purr 
Data to see what's been 
added or changed.
As far as disabling the non-Vanilla objects and methods-- I don't see any easy 
way to do that in 
Pd.  You could probably write some dangerous mercenary class that 
destroys/overwrites classes/methods 
as you direct it from the runtime.
You could use the Purr Data introspection objects inside an abstraction to poll 
the current parent 
canvas looking for non-Vanilla objects.  And maybe have it create a comment 
next to the offending 
object.  But that's a bit finicky and prone to error.

-Jonathan

On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 7:48 AM, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list 
<[email protected]> wrote:

Purr Data 2.1.1 is out.
https://git.purrdata.net/ jwilkes/purr-data-binaries/ tree/master

I added a "dropdown" widget to the "Put" menu.  The interface 
isn't yet stable, but it should be usable if people want to play 
with it.
Changes:
* normalized range for `[bendin]` (keep old behavior under legacy flag)
* added "mouseenter" and "mouseleave" events for data structures
* fixed "Recent Files" under Windows
* cleaned up documentation in repo
* fix for `[midiclkin]` (#255)
* added "l2ork_version" message for `[pdinfo]`
* make loader search order the same as Pd Vanilla
* fixed cord inspector font size
* silence spurious error when autopatching a signal object
* added a `[dropdown]` object for choosing a value for an atom box (interface 
not stable yet)
* made gatom resizable by click-dragging in edit mode
* added "<ctrl-mousewheel>" for zooming
* added solarized and inverted solarized gui presets
* fixed mycanvas stroke color updates
* improvements to mode 4 of intelligent patching
* fixed "<Delete>" not deleting a selected object on some systems

-Jonathan

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